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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2

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catcherintherye said:
There is some sense with this, but I can't completely go along with it. I was hoping they'd bottle the title a bit more than they did, but to be fair they won a lot of high pressure games, which I fear will help them in the final. You also have to factor in that Spurs are perennial bottlers. They are a better version of us under Moyes really. They rarely win big games.

That being said I do think this break will be unhelpful for them and quite good for Spurs. Not only can Spurs get their players back fit which is a big plus but the sense of expectation and nerves can only be eating away at Liverpool. I sense it with their supporters too. They seem far less brash than last year. I think they know this year they have it all to lose as opposed to it all to gain. If they were to lose it will be a lot harder to brush off and "go again".

The hope has to be that Spurs can stay in the game. It needs to be a tight game really. And hopefully Liverpool's nerves will kick in. My suspicion is Liverpool have too much quality though and the occasion gets to Spurs.
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Probably just giving myself false confidence but what I'd say is that spurs wont have anything to 'bottle' as such. They're expected to lose.

Also they have shown bottle on a few occasions in this competition.
 
Steve0 said:
It was also the complete silence (and therefore approval) of the RS fans which made it especially egregious.

They like to portray themselves as this uber left wing collective, the last mohican of 'old football', standing against corporate giants but when it came down to an abuse of power they absolutely could have done something about they chose to do nothing.

Oh families having to sell for 15k with 20k left on their mortgage? Increase in house prices mean they cant get anywhere else? Local businesses going bankrupt?
Whatevs, so long as der mitey Redman can sine markovic and glen Johnson.
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Yep, they did a number on their local community. What should be the bedrock of any club, they destroyed. It's a very important thing for us to learn from if/ when we move grounds. Those that are left in the shadows of Goodison should be left the better for our time there.
 
This talk about Spurs being bottlers, it may be true over a longer period, but getting through the QF and SF in the circumstances they did doesn't suggest it to me.

The final is an absolute free hit for them so what a glorious opportunity.

LFC on the other hand, absolutely MUST win this.

Even with a favourable media, Klopp won't escape serious scrutiny as the bottler-in-chief of finals if they come away empty handed.

I would imagine Mourinho for one would love to draw attention to it in his new role of pundit.

I might even buy the LFC season review if they lose this, as to watch them end up with nothing under these circumstances would represent quite breathtaking failure.
 
brieverton said:
This talk about Spurs being bottlers, it may be true over a longer period, but getting through the QF and SF in the circumstances they did doesn't suggest it to me.

The final is an absolute free hit for them so what a glorious opportunity.

LFC on the other hand, absolutely MUST win this.

Even with a favourable media, Klopp won't escape serious scrutiny as the bottler-in-chief of finals if they come away empty handed.

I would imagine Mourinho for one would love to draw attention to it in his new role of pundit.

I might even buy the LFC season review if they lose this, as to watch them end up with nothing under these circumstances would represent quite breathtaking failure.
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New ground, new era. What a way to give birth to this new period in their history than a champions league win and a star on their shirt.

Destiny?
 

catcherintherye said:
There is some sense with this, but I can't completely go along with it. I was hoping they'd bottle the title a bit more than they did, but to be fair they won a lot of high pressure games, which I fear will help them in the final. You also have to factor in that Spurs are perennial bottlers. They are a better version of us under Moyes really. They rarely win big games.

That being said I do think this break will be unhelpful for them and quite good for Spurs. Not only can Spurs get their players back fit which is a big plus but the sense of expectation and nerves can only be eating away at Liverpool. I sense it with their supporters too. They seem far less brash than last year. I think they know this year they have it all to lose as opposed to it all to gain. If they were to lose it will be a lot harder to brush off and "go again".

The hope has to be that Spurs can stay in the game. It needs to be a tight game really. And hopefully Liverpool's nerves will kick in. My suspicion is Liverpool have too much quality though and the occasion gets to Spurs.
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As much as I joke about it, I don't actually see Spurs as bottlers. Or Liverpool, for that matter. But Spurs, in particular, based on their incredible frugality in the transfer market and having to build a new stadium, have performed far better than they should have over the last few seasons. Yes they came close, but far closer than they should have. It's only really bottling it if expectations and the potential ceiling were high enough to win big trophies in the first place. If Liverpool don't win the CL or PL this year after all they have spent, that would be a bottle job of massive proportions, but they have more or less performed at or slightly above expectations the last few years.
 
davek said:
Expect loads of "witty" banners at the CL final about Liverpool not buying success.

Man City Top 10 most expensive signings
Mahrez £60M
Laporte £57M
De Bruyne £55M
Mendy £52M
Stones £47M
Walker £45M
Sterling £44M
B.Silva £43M
Mangala £42M
Aguero £38M

Total £483M

Liverpool Top 10 most expensive signings
VVD £75M
Alisson £65M
Keita £57M
Salah £44M
Fabinho £44M
Carroll £35M
Oxlade-Chamberlain £35M
Benteke £33M
Mane £30M
Firmino £30M

Total £448M

Clearly only one club is financially doping.
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Always forget they have, and we had, Mangala.

£42m for Mangala is awful business.
 

brieverton said:
This talk about Spurs being bottlers, it may be true over a longer period, but getting through the QF and SF in the circumstances they did doesn't suggest it to me.

The final is an absolute free hit for them so what a glorious opportunity.

LFC on the other hand, absolutely MUST win this.

Even with a favourable media, Klopp won't escape serious scrutiny as the bottler-in-chief of finals if they come away empty handed.

I would imagine Mourinho for one would love to draw attention to it in his new role of pundit.

I might even buy the LFC season review if they lose this, as to watch them end up with nothing under these circumstances would represent quite breathtaking failure.
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Liverpool have bottled everything since 2012 (which even then they almost lost to a championship side on penalties). I could see this going to pens as both sides will fancy that rather than having to go and win it themselves. I can’t see either team being good enough to put the game out of reach of the other one so it might come down to a mistake or wonder goal.
 

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