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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2

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matchworks said:
It collapsed because of the pressure on it. I am not denying or rewriting history, but no Liverpool fan pushed a wall onto anybody. The actions caused opposition fans to retreat and the result was the tragic deaths of innocent people. If you were to explain what happened would you say "Liverpool fans pushed a wall onto people"?
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Utterly repugnant. Imagine anyone arguing the toss over the mechanics of H'boro as a way of avoiding blame...there'd rightly be massive condemnation.

^^^ This is why you lot are hated around the globe.
 
matchworks said:
Rival fans clashed. One set of fans retreated and were blocked in and a wall collapsed with 39 innocent people killed and hundreds more injured. There is no denying that. The point I was making is nobody "pushed" a wall onto people. I was responding to a comment on here saying it was "better for them to run on the pitch than push walls over". Not denying what happened, don't know how anyone could. Those actions caused immeasurable damage and grief for the families affected.
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Claiming you don't deny what happened whilst refusing to blame the killers
 
Basically, if the kopites hadn't charged at the Juve fans in that one section, the wall wouldn't have collapsed and there wouldn't have been a cascade of people being crushed by others falling on top of them. It is true that no kopite actually touched the wall, but it's also true that while the hammer on a gun is what fires the bullet, it still needs someone to pull the trigger. You were the trigger at Heysel.
 
matchworks said:
Rival fans clashed. One set of fans retreated and were blocked in and a wall collapsed with 39 innocent people killed and hundreds more injured. There is no denying that. The point I was making is nobody "pushed" a wall onto people. I was responding to a comment on here saying it was "better for them to run on the pitch than push walls over". Not denying what happened, don't know how anyone could. Those actions caused immeasurable damage and grief for the families affected.
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Christ Almighty..... I thought it was bad enough the majority of the RS never ever mentioning Heysel in their usual "if we don't talk about it, it almost never really happened" M.O. Now this bizarre brazen denial of fault. Plumbing new depths these infiltrators....the ones who slowly attempt to ingratiate themselves to gain a sort of acceptance by some due to their mildish demeanour. (As opposed to the out and out 'aren't I clever' obvious eejits) The temptation to revert to textbook RS is always on their shoulder though and they eventually show their drawers in their usual nasty little manner.
 

matchworks said:
Rival fans clashed. One set of fans retreated and were blocked in and a wall collapsed with 39 innocent people killed and hundreds more injured. There is no denying that. The point I was making is nobody "pushed" a wall onto people. I was responding to a comment on here saying it was "better for them to run on the pitch than push walls over". Not denying what happened, don't know how anyone could. Those actions caused immeasurable damage and grief for the families affected.
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You're being a bit deranged here. Liverpool fans were literally found guilty of manslaughter in the court of law. Yes, it was only a few, of course it wasn't all Liverpool fans, but when your club makes it a trademark to collectively own so many tragedies, you have to collectively own culpability when you're responsible too. Liverpool fans killed Juventus fans, a fact that was celebrated with banners in the kop
 

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