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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2

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PaulPowersTash said:
As I say fella - I have put your previous post down as a wind up.
Give it a rest. You are not funny or clever just lamentable.
Why come on your biggest rivals forum and spout such drivel?
Pathetic.
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It wasn’t. Maybe choosing to highlight one sentence to mean something it doesn’t, immediately after ignoring a sentence that said the opposite of what you’re taking it for, is a wind up?
 
LEONARD said:
A serious question. No other fanbase feels the need to do this.

What motivates you and the cult?
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I've wondered this, it's nothing to do with passion, all clubs at all levels have a few passionate fans.
I think it's more to do with Liverpool fans not actually going to games, I've got a few mates who go down for this bus stuff, and it's more to see the spectacle, they watch that then go either the pub or home.
 
SteChallinor said:
2 points here. Setting off a flare in that setting is ok by my reckoning, as long as theres some consideration for doing it safely. If it’s done at a risk of others then that’s not ok, but the act of setting off a flare on its own is ok.

But whether it makes you cringe? That’s fair enough. I’ve never been minded to join in one of these gatherings, so am obviously not massively bought in on it, but I also don’t cringe. Opinions on these things are allowed to differ though.



Like all things... it’s a handful of bad apples that cause trouble and give a bad name to the rest. I think calling it “planned violence” is a bit daft though.

Some of your lot were scrapping last season at millwall, and was there another game too? Doubt that was the majority of you, but a few who chose to make trouble or got involved when opportunity arose.

The bellends that do more than cheer the coach deserve criticism and more needs to be done (as I said) by all parties including the fans to stop it.

I haven’t heard of trouble at one of these other than city though - not that it diminishes the trouble with the city coach.


If you want to say I’m claiming moral high ground, ok. But I’m not, and I havent. I’ve criticised on both sides, and also recognised that it’s a minority in those instances anyhow.

I’ve had one scrap in my life when I was 17, got my nose busted, and tend to not get involved in trouble. I think people that do are generally idiots. It doesn’t matter to me what colour shirt they’re wearing when they do it.
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What do you think your gang of asshats turned up for when the City coach came rolling in? Give them a round of applause? There were thousands there and it was blatantly obvious they were there to smash that bus up = ORGANISED VIOLENCE.

As for violence at a Millwall game, bloody hell who'd have thunk it. From what I read it was Millwall's retaliation for something that happened in the 70s/80s so I'll pay no heed to that.

Setting off flares is cringe and try-hard. You're trying to be 'ultras' to show you're the best and most passionate supporters - when it's all an act.


As you can probably tell, I can't abide Liverpool fans - every single one of you is full of s**t with your YNWA and your JFT96, you've devalued them into empty hollow taglines and hashtags.
 
d34noj said:
What do you think your gang of asshats turned up for when the City coach came rolling in? Give them a round of applause? There were thousands there and it was blatantly obvious they were there to smash that bus up = ORGANISED VIOLENCE.

As for violence at a Millwall game, bloody hell who'd have thunk it. From what I read it was Millwall's retaliation for something that happened in the 70s/80s so I'll pay no heed to that.

Setting off flares is cringe and try-hard. You're trying to be 'ultras' to show you're the best and most passionate supporters - when it's all an act.


As you can probably tell, I can't abide Liverpool fans - every single one of you is full of s**t with your YNWA and your JFT96, you've devalued them into empty hollow taglines and hashtags.
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And yet I’ve never uttered either on here.

Cringe. Go ahead.

There weren’t thousands there to smash up a bus, intent on violence. You’re telling a fairytale.

There were thousands there to welcome the Liverpool bus and show the city bus that they were coming into a racous atmosphere that night.

Some bellends then threw bottles at the bus.

As I said in my first reply, that is more likely when there is a negatively charged atmosphere, and I don’t like it and hope it never happens again.

The bus welcome has happened many times without it, and while I don’t really care if the “welcome” never happens again, or happens every week, I truly hope those bellends control themselves, or the away coach avoids the crowds.

Either way, you’re entitled to your view. I shared mine because the post I replied to sort of invited me to.

I don’t speak for anyone else though. Never will try to.
 

SteChallinor said:
And yet I’ve never uttered either on here.

Cringe. Go ahead.

There weren’t thousands there to smash up a bus, intent on violence. You’re telling a fairytale.

There were thousands there to welcome the Liverpool bus and show the city bus that they were coming into a racous atmosphere that night.

Some bellends then threw bottles at the bus.

As I said in my first reply, that is more likely when there is a negatively charged atmosphere, and I don’t like it and hope it never happens again.

The bus welcome has happened many times without it, and while I don’t really care if the “welcome” never happens again, or happens every week, I truly hope those bellends control themselves, or the away coach avoids the crowds.

Either way, you’re entitled to your view. I shared mine because the post I replied to sort of invited me to.

I don’t speak for anyone else though. Never will try to.
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Justifying it by saying "Some bellends". Scum and the shame of our city
 
SteChallinor said:
And yet I’ve never uttered either on here.

Cringe. Go ahead.

There weren’t thousands there to smash up a bus, intent on violence. You’re telling a fairytale.

There were thousands there to welcome the Liverpool bus and show the city bus that they were coming into a racous atmosphere that night.

Some bellends then threw bottles at the bus.

As I said in my first reply, that is more likely when there is a negatively charged atmosphere, and I don’t like it and hope it never happens again.

The bus welcome has happened many times without it, and while I don’t really care if the “welcome” never happens again, or happens every week, I truly hope those bellends control themselves, or the away coach avoids the crowds.

Either way, you’re entitled to your view. I shared mine because the post I replied to sort of invited me to.

I don’t speak for anyone else though. Never will try to.
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SteChallinor said:
And yet I’ve never uttered either on here.

Cringe. Go ahead.

There weren’t thousands there to smash up a bus, intent on violence. You’re telling a fairytale.

There were thousands there to welcome the Liverpool bus and show the city bus that they were coming into a racous atmosphere that night.

Some bellends then threw bottles at the bus.

As I said in my first reply, that is more likely when there is a negatively charged atmosphere, and I don’t like it and hope it never happens again.

The bus welcome has happened many times without it, and while I don’t really care if the “welcome” never happens again, or happens every week, I truly hope those bellends control themselves, or the away coach avoids the crowds.

Either way, you’re entitled to your view. I shared mine because the post I replied to sort of invited me to.

I don’t speak for anyone else though. Never will try to.
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One excuse after another from Liverpool fans. It really is never your fault.
 
SteChallinor said:
There weren’t thousands there to smash up a bus, intent on violence. You’re telling a fairytale.

There were thousands there to welcome the Liverpool bus and show the city bus that they were coming into a racous atmosphere that night.

Some bellends then threw bottles at the bus.
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To be honest mate I'm bored of talking about it, you're either naive or burying your head in the sand - I'm thinking the latter. Kopites have a long illustrious history of violence so I'm just going on facts rather than what I want to be true.
 


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