ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2

[davek]

Peter Hooton invented clothes didn't he?

He invented Adidas Samba and Fred Perry polo shirts. And wedge haircuts.

 

[Jacob]

Can't believe anyone associated with EFC went along with this. WTF did responsibility/blame/blood-on-the-hands for 29th May 1985 have to do with Everton?

Did the club send along anyone in an official capacity or even more unreal, were supporters asked / went?


Talk about taking the piss. This is why they are hated.

Here are edited snippets from the original the article and the full one by the link. We last covered it on here about 18 months ago I think.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/heysel-30-years---peter-9254188

"The stadium was not fit for purpose...As a Liverpool fan I don't feel any culpability whatsoever"
Reds’ fan Peter Hooton, lead singer of The Farm, was at Heysel Stadium in Brussels for the European Cup Final between Liverpool and Juventus on May 29, 1985 – and later a leading figure in the grass-roots ‘peace trips’ involving fans of the two clubs. Here he reflects on the tragedy and its aftermath – while stressing he is only speaking on behalf of himself. ….
In August, 1985, 18 Juventus fans visited Liverpool after an invitation from the Liverpool 28 Improvements Committee in Cantril Farm – which included then youth worker Peter Hooton....
The trip, which had actually been planned before Heysel as part of a routine exchange visit, was organised by Peter, together with Mark Fitzsimmons from Cantril Farm, who later went on to become a youth worker. It was funded by the John Moores Foundation and supported by Liverpool City Council..The group attended a civic reception at Liverpool Town Hall, toured Anfield and Goodison Park and enjoyed a concert on the Royal Iris which featured The Farm, Groundpig, Jegsy Dodd and Ted Chippington. John Peel, who had been at Heysel, was the DJ....
“Our peace trip was grass roots and accepted as a genuine gesture. Liverpool and Everton fans were involved and no one ever said to us ‘What are you doing this for?’
“Heysel was never raised by rival fans in the late 1980s. After the advent of the Premier League, I think there was a certain feeling that the European ban had affected Everton’s finances. And when Everton were flirting with relegation it manifested itself a little bit more then because people were looking for reasons why they were in this situation.

 

[Nobby Nobbs]

Had it not been for the British Establishment protecting them they'd have gone into administration (they were hours away). I suspect if it unravels again it will be more dramatic than this

Hi mate can you explain what exactly happened here, how close were they and why.

 

[Harryflashman]

Had it not been for the British Establishment protecting them they'd have gone into administration (they were hours away).

I think you’re right mate but For me the appointment of Broughton was effectively administration in all but name . I’m Not convinced every other club would have got away with it , but obviously it’s them so I wasn’t surprised.

 

[RedNotLikelyToPost]

There’s a few significant differences between the situation now under FSG and the situation then under the cowboys.

Notably, our commercial revenue has grown a lot. Whether or not you like all the official noodle sponsors and the like, we are run much better as a business.

Plus, as tv money has increased and last years CL run netted a pretty penny, they’ve spent close to £0 in net terms the last few years, offsetting expensive signings with even more expensive sales.

The clubs financial health is absolutely fine, in football terms. It’s not got a sheik or oligarch, but we make a lot of money and live within those means.

That doesn’t change the pressure on Klopp to win something, but every Liverpool manager aside from Hodgson has carried that pressure, and Hodgson only didn’t because everyone knew he was a fraud of a manager and not a fit with the club, and that we were financially up the creek by then.

It could all go wrong, but actually very little of the big money spent has been risky business.

No one is expected salah to be what he was last year, but he also wasn’t wildly expensive.

vD was, but he’s looked fantastic since and so isn’t a risk now other than potential injury which could be true for any club.

 

[Connor]

There’s a few significant differences between the situation now under FSG and the situation then under the cowboys.

Notably, our commercial revenue has grown a lot. Whether or not you like all the official noodle sponsors and the like, we are run much better as a business.

Plus, as tv money has increased and last years CL run netted a pretty penny, they’ve spent close to £0 in net terms the last few years, offsetting expensive signings with even more expensive sales.

The clubs financial health is absolutely fine, in football terms. It’s not got a sheik or oligarch, but we make a lot of money and live within those means.

That doesn’t change the pressure on Klopp to win something, but every Liverpool manager aside from Hodgson has carried that pressure, and Hodgson only didn’t because everyone knew he was a fraud of a manager and not a fit with the club, and that we were financially up the creek by then.

It could all go wrong, but actually very little of the big money spent has been risky business.

No one is expected salah to be what he was last year, but he also wasn’t wildly expensive.

vD was, but he’s looked fantastic since and so isn’t a risk now other than potential injury which could be true for any club.

Evening pal.

Your name says not likely to post and yet you've posted a bit in this last week.

Everything ok?

 

[RedNotLikelyToPost]

Evening pal.

Your name says not likely to post and yet you've posted a bit in this last week.

Everything ok?

Thanks for asking pal.

I’m good. It’s the off season, there’s eff all going on, so this kills an hour every now and then.

I’ve enjoyed it.

 

[Seathestars]

Thanks for asking pal.

I’m good. It’s the off season, there’s eff all going on, so this kills an hour every now and then.

I’ve enjoyed it.

You'd know all about that

 

[RedNotLikelyToPost]

You'd know all about that

You’ve mistaken my using a very common turn of phrase, meaning a way to pass the time when you have little of importance to do, with a literal use of the word kill, as in to end a life.

Time is a man made construct and cannot ‘literally’ be killed, so it’s probably on me for using the phrase in the first place. Forgive me.







Or... don’t be a [Poor language removed] and imply that people you’ve never met are murderers because you’ve heard your mates say it and it makes you sound ‘ard.

Knob.

 

[goodisonopheliac]

So what's the Liverpool party line on Pickford, do they want to buy him or is he rubbish and/or evil for playing for England?

 

[Yarrgh]

So what's the Liverpool party line on Pickford, do they want to buy him or is he rubbish and/or evil for playing for England?

He's only a concussion away from moving to the level required for the der best team in der werrlldt.

 

[Yank]

Thanks for asking pal.

I’m good. It’s the off season, there’s eff all going on, so this kills an hour every now and then.

I’ve enjoyed it.

You're going to say this in a World Cup summer? Ok.

 

[Yank]

You’ve mistaken my using a very common turn of phrase, meaning a way to pass the time when you have little of importance to do, with a literal use of the word kill, as in to end a life.

Time is a man made construct and cannot ‘literally’ be killed, so it’s probably on me for using the phrase in the first place. Forgive me.







Or... don’t be a [Poor language removed] and imply that people you’ve never met are murderers because you’ve heard your mates say it and it makes you sound ‘ard.

Knob.

I've never understood people who go and post on another club or teams board.

Like you said it's summer, get a life. You can't find anything to do? Must be a hard existence.

 

[RobC]

You'd know all about that

Stay classy.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

OHHHH

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/listen-talksport-presenter-call-out-14903218

The conversation between former Chelsea player Cundy and Dan, which was recorded and posted to Twitter in a shortened version, then became slightly more intense.

The presenter replies to tell Dan to "stop going on about Scouse and come back down to earth".

The pair then have a heated discussion about what Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp "has actually achieved" at Anfield.

Cundy said: "Could Klopp achieve something at Liverpool?"

Dan replies with "yeah" and Cundy asks what he is basing that on.

The LFC fan said: "We got to the Champions League final - which is better than what England have done."

Appearing to become slightly more irate Cundy says "okay, so now all of a sudden Liverpool have achieved something by getting to a final and losing" before asking again "what has Klopp actually won?"

Stating that the Reds' have won "five European cups", Dan interjects to state "how many World Cup trophies have you got?"


Cundy said: "What do you mean, you? Are you English?"

Again, Dan comes back saying that he is English but he "was cheering for Croatia all the way" before stating LFC have got "18 leagues and five European cups".

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH