He was left for dead and looked sluggish, but in fairness, Sane is just quicker than him!
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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2
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Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
This is the season the myth that is Van Dijk finally gets exposed.
Roger Milla
Player Valuation: £20m
The banning of that RS was a bit unnecessary and RAWK-esque imo.
BlueInNZ
Player Valuation: £10m
He's a myth? Already? I missed that one.
Think he'll have a decent season and not sure there's any myth to be exposed, but only time will tell.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
For the fee paid he should be at the level of Varane Ramos Umtiti Godin Bonnuci, not just having a decent season. The myth that will be exposed is the one created by your fans and the media that he IS at that level when even last season average premier league attacks were causing him problems.
Mourinho is right, with your level of expenditure you now have to win the title or the CL otherwise the season will be classed as a failure.
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
spot on. The RS' defence didn't improve one bit since he came in in the second half of the season. But nobody dared to mention it. He's big and makes himself seen at important moments i.e. when they score, he's always there one of the first in front of the camera.
But what about when the opposition score? he's never anywhere near the ball nor the goalscorer, just because they spent a laughable fee on him, doesn't mean he's actually good, he was worth about £15m tops.
By that logic, for the fee signed, Richarlison should score 40+ goals next season, a la Salah? Liverpool have only invested the real big money (with no key players departing) this season. So to expect a CL or Prem win immediately is stretching it slightly. City would still have a stronger squad than Liverpool, even if another £80-100M was invested. Arguably now on par with Utd, squad-wise.
Is that actually true? Thought Liverpool had one of the best defensive records in the prem in the 2nd half of the season? Maybe VVD gets no credit for that happening.
If he's nowhere near the ball or goalscorer when the opposition score, presumably it's not "his" man that's scoring, so therefore he's not at fault? If he was near the ball or goalscorer when the opposition scored, this thread would be full of comments about how it was clearly his fault lol.
Liverpool are defensively better organised and much calmer when he's there. Lovren looks decent alongside him and that counts for something lol.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Playing your usual unfancied dark horse routine won’t work now. Not when you go out and smash the world record transfer fees on two positions. To put it into context you beat the record fee of 54 mill on a defender by 21 million pounds when buying Van Dijk. You broke the goal keeper record fee by 30 million at 65 mill which is almost double the price of the next most expensive Ederson at 34 mill.
This isn’t FSG finally starting to invest real big money, this is you investing so much the market is being distorted. These are fees that no club in the world have ever got anywhere near for players in those positions. As such they’ll be under huge pressure to perform at that level for the season and back it up with major silverware.
Last time I checked the world record fee for an attacker was 198mill for Neymar so quite why Richarlison at 45 mill needs to be compared to that level I don’t know. Maybe we can compare him to Oxlade Chamberlain who also went for that fee (before FSG started investing what you would call the big money).
Buffon for what £32M in 2000ish must be up there, but he was worth it, the jury is still out on Allasen. Time will tell, I suppose that is true of both Merseyside goalies now they have been transferred for large amounts, interesting season ahead.
Not sure about Liverpool being dark horses they are always fancied by some in the media, Leicester were real dark horses.
Not sure about Liverpool being dark horses they are always fancied by some in the media, Leicester were real dark horses.
What is it with the "most expensive in that position" thing? How is that relevant to anything? Utd pay £89M for Pogba & £75-90M for Lukaku but that doesn't count they were a midfielder and an attacker. You compare the transfer of Neymar to Richarlison or Ox rather than Salah as it suits your narrative.
Incidentally, Liverpool sold Coutinho for the same amount they spent on the sum of those 2 "record fee for that position" players, one of the most expensive fees for any player in any position....
Until this season, Liverpool have been sell to buy and can't compete financially with City & Utd.
This is the first time under Klopp that Liverpool have invested heavily without selling a key player. Klopp is definitely under more scrutiny now after this investment level, but is under more pressure to win one of the CL or prem than Mourinho or Guardiola who've invested very heavily every year without losing any key players?
realistically richarlison is at the point salah was when he came to chelsea, talented potential.
allison is a major risk at that price, he could do well but theres always the risk he'll flop, with the caveat that if he does perform well he'd be off to madrid in a flash.
Van dijk is a good player, but nowhere near worth the fee paid, and he has been exposed a fair few times.
As much as i hate to say it, the liverpool squad does have some quality, they will have their moments when they trounce big sides, but true to form they'll always have their west brom, burnley etc moments.
Your struggles will come from klopp who only knows one way to play, it works most of the time but thats not enough and is the reason you'll always be nearly rans.
just like winning, losing big games becomes a habit and that mentality is hard to shift, its the reason we've struggled in derbys for so long.
The word record transfer fee for a player in 2000 was £37M, so that £32M would be worth around £170M now...
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