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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2

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catcherintherye said:
They don't though do they mate? Or a lot of them don't.

I saw some oddball had screen shotted a perfectly reasonable summation post I made on here about their start, which while acknowledging their wins provided some context to them. No attempt of the wider context was given, it was plastered all over the internet for some cheap laughs and replies that lacked grammatical coherence. The bloke was from Middlesborough.

It seems rather odd behaviour to me. Unhinged. I'm a fairly open guy, you can respond to whatever I post and I think I come back in a fair and reasonable way. When lads have had a pop at reds on here I've stuck up for the reds. You can message me (some of the reds have) and we have a discussion. You can be really brave and challenge me intellectually by responding to the post.

They won't do that though, as they'll go for the cowardly hide behind a username, lie to the world and make snarky comments about people they can't see behind their backs. It's the behaviour of a coward.

I had another all over twitter threatening violence to myself and my family for what was said on here. He kept saying he was aware of my posts and who I was etc, and I made him a simple offer to come on here, and either send me a message calling me (and my family) what he did or even via a message. Suffice to say nothing has ever come. It won't do either.

In some ways it's quite flattering that I obviously generation such fear and inferiority amongst them, that they don't have the dignity or bravery to say something to me face on here. I take the positive. It's very creepy behaviour though, don't you think?
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Bloody hell, That’s awful. Can you put the threats up what he said. No ones families should be threatened
 
Colin.Johnson said:
Are you actually serious? Jesus [Poor language removed] Christ. It's a football rivalry for crying out loud. I know plenty of R's that are perfectly lovely people. As I'm sure you do! Don't you realise how utterly ridiculous you sound when you talk like this? I'm all for rivalry, I'm all for criticism, but you really have taken the piss with this one. You criticise Liverpool fans for deluded dedication to their team yet we do exactly the same with even less to show for it - but that's football. That's fine! But comparing them to fascist organisations and having the front to talk about Hitler in the same point is absolutely pathetic. Get a [Poor language removed] life mate. I've read some of your other self important soliloquys and this has to be the most cringeworthy of the lot!

Disingenuous, cheap arguments and the kind of rubbish that makes me embarrassed to be a football fan, let alone an Everton fan. Grow up!
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@Groucho apologies for not knowing how to multi-quote.

I hope the fella didn't leave on my account. I was going to write a reply that would clarify much of what he's saying.

There are lots of good reds out there and I've met many who are some of the best supporters I know. There's also a nasty underbelly on social media. I think social media and the power of LFC give them a confidence and brashness they would never have in real life. That was all I meant by the "worms into dragon's" comment. It was stupid to reference it to Hitler, as the Hitler bit makes little difference. My point isn't they are genocidal racists, but that those engaging in this behaviour are quite sad lonely people who take confidence to think they are able to intimidate people based on an institution.

I hope if he gets to see this he comes back. I don't think he's a red but I'm not bothered if he was. If you read back through my posts on here it's fairly clear I am happy to debate civilly with most of the Liverpool lads who are on the site and always try to do so politely. I'm not so vain as to think someone who disagrees with what I say has to be a Liverpool fan!
 
PITA said:
I suspect that Catcher wasn’t referring to your 14 year old niece. Possibly it is the idiots who trash opposing clubs coaches and trawl the web to dig up facts such as present day footballers had a few detentions at school.
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I wasn't referring to his niece. I was referring to the people who intimidated a young black lad off social media using imagery which has more relevance to the KKK than the 21st. Or those who abused a black man for being racially abused at their stadium. Or the Liverpool fan who referred to their supporters as "murderers" or his mates who joined in to defend him when I challenged him. Or the countless ones who make insults of threats and then block me.

He seems a reasonable man and I'm sure he has a good family too. I hope he comes back. Whether he is a red or a blue isn't of any importance to me, though I imagine he is a blue who was understandably alarmed by some of the comparisons I made last night, which is fair enough.
 
roydo said:
Well he is serving a temp ban accumulated in his first 2 posts, which must be some sort of record.
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Ah ok, it just said he had banned himself at his own request which seems odd? He only seemed to make 2 posts towards me, which while critical I had no issue with. That being said I understand the decision of yourselves as mods if you wish to enforce the rules.
 

catcherintherye said:
Ah ok, it just said he had banned himself at his own request which seems odd? He only seemed to make 2 posts towards me, which while critical I had no issue with. That being said I understand the decision of yourselves as mods if you wish to enforce the rules.
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Thats weird.

He swore twice in post 1, and as a new member, warned him for both, hoping he would take the hint. Then swore again in post 2, so got another warning.

Result is an automatic short ban.
 
catcherintherye said:
I wasn't referring to his niece. I was referring to the people who intimidated a young black lad off social media using imagery which has more relevance to the KKK than the 21st. Or those who abused a black man for being racially abused at their stadium. Or the Liverpool fan who referred to their supporters as "murderers" or his mates who joined in to defend him when I challenged him. Or the countless ones who make insults of threats and then block me.

He seems a reasonable man and I'm sure he has a good family too. I hope he comes back. Whether he is a red or a blue isn't of any importance to me, though I imagine he is a blue who was understandably alarmed by some of the comparisons I made last night, which is fair enough.
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I think that if you read my post you will see that we are in total agreement. You might already be aware of this. If so the tone of your post is a bit odd.
 
roydo said:
Thats weird.

He swore twice in post 1, and as a new member, warned him for both, hoping he would take the hint. Then swore again in post 2, so got another warning.

Result is an automatic short ban.
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Fair enough mate. Well I hope he heeds the advice which is fair enough. I am happy to debate with anyone and he really doesn't need to swear to be listened. I'm glad he didn't remove himself on account of my post, as I wouldn't want to be the cause of anyone leaving the site. Hopefully I won't be on a role with overly inappropriate comparisons and self important rants when he comes back, though I can give no guarantees! (On the rants anyway!).
 

catcherintherye said:
@Groucho apologies for not knowing how to multi-quote.

I hope the fella didn't leave on my account. I was going to write a reply that would clarify much of what he's saying.

There are lots of good reds out there and I've met many who are some of the best supporters I know. There's also a nasty underbelly on social media. I think social media and the power of LFC give them a confidence and brashness they would never have in real life. That was all I meant by the "worms into dragon's" comment. It was stupid to reference it to Hitler, as the Hitler bit makes little difference. My point isn't they are genocidal racists, but that those engaging in this behaviour are quite sad lonely people who take confidence to think they are able to intimidate people based on an institution.

I hope if he gets to see this he comes back. I don't think he's a red but I'm not bothered if he was. If you read back through my posts on here it's fairly clear I am happy to debate civilly with most of the Liverpool lads who are on the site and always try to do so politely. I'm not so vain as to think someone who disagrees with what I say has to be a Liverpool fan!
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That's the whole internet phenomenon, some of the stuff you read is mind boggling and you just know that they would never say any of it in normal day to day living. Trying to win the internet by being the nastiest seems to be the norm. Mind you Davek has just proved Godwins Law is alive and kicking.
 

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