ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[davek]

I mean I am right in saying this is fraudulent?

Well done Klopp, for voting for the mediocre white man, to get an award over people of colour and women by cheating. Great example you're setting that, of how to entrench structural racism and sexism with micro aggressions.

Don't worry though, he believes someone else will forgive him of all his wrong doing anyway, so he never has to take any responsibility.

Fraud doesn't come into it. Considerations like that are of no concern to any of that lot. It's their default mindset: win even if it means illegal or criminal acts.

 

[brigadier]

Deep down you know it,Liverpool will win the league.

Given maybe, win it dont make me laugh.

 

[number4.]

I think you're assumption that 5 subs is logical and sensible is your failing here. Seems to me 10 teams understand the importance to see evidence to back up some quite erratic assumptions.

and ten teams the other side as well. None of us know the rationale behind each club’s motivation & can only speculate. My take is three fold.

1) ultimately it’s a welfare issue & should have gone through, I’ve outlined why above and not going to repeat.
2) some of the 10 no votes missing the bigger picture and it’s a vote against the establishment - their entitled to do that
3) ultimately “the product” of good football will be impacted by this, more injuries, less tactical subs & teams shaking hands on 70. One of the ten no-voters will end up close to not being able to field a team by March & everyone will be up in arms saying it’s ridiculous

 

[tommytowne]

FIFA manager of the year Klopp.

How is anyone supposed to take that vote seriously when an army of Kopites are allowed to infest the process?

There's no limit to the amount of fans who can register with FIFA from any one club to take a vote.

It's an open door to the cult to elevate their players and manager.

Flick, with 5 trophies in one season - including the EC and the Bundesliga - doesn't get coach of the year.

Lol.

I'm a touch late to this story, but Jose is justified in his take on Klopp v Flick on this matter.
Compared to the Bayern coach, Klopp has come up short. How he won it can only be down to the sychophants that as you say infest the process. Truly unbelievable until you remember that the BBC are pushing their 30 Year Wait special programme. Then another 5 Live guy this morning telling a Palace fan not to mention Crystanbul because it still hurts. Sickening.

 

[toffee82]

and ten teams the other side as well. None of us know the rationale behind each club’s motivation & can only speculate. My take is three fold.

1) ultimately it’s a welfare issue & should have gone through, I’ve outlined why above and not going to repeat.
2) some of the 10 no votes missing the bigger picture and it’s a vote against the establishment - their entitled to do that
3) ultimately “the product” of good football will be impacted by this, more injuries, less tactical subs & teams shaking hands on 70. One of the ten no-voters will end up close to not being able to field a team by March & everyone will be up in arms saying it’s ridiculous

The fact that the most vocal manager with regards to this issue made ZERO subs suggests it is not ultimately about players welfare for him.

 

[Jacob]

I hope the sly dirty fouls Fabinho does are noted today. I can see either him or Keita getting a red. A repetition of a certain other game at Selhurst would be nice viewing perhaps for this Echo scribe of late.....

 

[davek]

I'm a touch late to this story, but Jose is justified in his take on Klopp v Flick on this matter.
Compared to the Bayern coach, Klopp has come up short. How he won it can only be down to the sychophants that as you say infest the process. Truly unbelievable until you remember that the BBC are pushing their 30 Year Wait special programme. Then another 5 Live guy this morning telling a Palace fan not to mention Crystanbul because it still hurts. Sickening.

He couldn't believe it himself he'd won it.

But the system of voting is: enrol as a FIFA fan member and you get to skew the vote if you and your fellow supporters want to vote en masse.

It's a sham award.

 

[davek]

5-6 for the murderers today...last minute VAR decision.

I have no idea why this PL is still rolling on with the way the home advantage situation is so imbalanced.

You may as well hand Liverpool a 10 point start to the season.

PL - fake league.

 

[Del-boy]

Another ex lfc manager bending over for them

 

[Saint Domingo]

5-6 for the murderers today...last minute VAR decision.

I have no idea why this PL is still rolling on with the way the home advantage situation is so imbalanced.

You may as well hand Liverpool a 10 point start to the season.

PL - fake league.

It’s fine that it’s a fake league as long as Liverpool win it though. The whole football pyramid and the media empire that exists off the back of it basically exists for the benefit of them. Everyone knows the refs favour them, everyone knows the fixture list is built around them every season, everyone knows they’re doping. Does anyone care? No, because half of them grew up in the Home Counties sucking on the teet of Dalglish and Rush.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

It’s fine that it’s a fake league as long as Liverpool win it though. The whole football pyramid and the media empire that exists off the back of it basically exists for the benefit of them. Everyone knows the refs favour them, everyone knows the fixture list is built around them every season, everyone knows they’re doping. Does anyone care? No, because half of them grew up in the Home Counties sucking on the teet of Dalglish and Rush.

Starting to think they aint doping tbh - Richarlison & DCL barely get injured and pretty much play every game does that make them dopers?

No doubt they push the limits whatever the magic drink they are on but It comes across as sour applies when we say they are the only team doping in the league.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Starting to think they aint doping tbh - Richarlison & DCL barely get injured and pretty much play every game does that make them dopers?

No doubt they push the limits whatever the magic drink they are on but It comes across as sour applies when we say they are the only team doping in the league.

Richarlison goes from looking decent in one game to looking like a complete donkey a week later. Robertson and Mane haven’t had a bad game in 3 seasons playing three times a week.

 

[EFCccc]

Liverpool will win the league again 100%.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Richarlison goes from looking decent in one game to looking like a complete donkey a week later. Robertson and Mane haven’t had a bad game in 3 seasons playing three times a week.

Wouldn't say that - Mane has been average last few weeks.

Richarlison runs up and down the pitch yet never looks goosed enough to miss a game.

I just think its an easy cop out when we never once called out Arsenals invincibles, Chelsea under Mourinho or SAF's decade+ of dominance as doping.

Even Man City never get accused of it when 34 yr old Fernandinho was bombing around the field whilst they were rocking up 100+ points.

I reckon it goes on but doubt its a club sponsored thing rather a few players likely going rogue of their own back.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Wouldn't say that - Mane has been average last few weeks.

Richarlison runs up and down the pitch yet never looks goosed enough to miss a game.

I just think its an easy cop out when we never once called out Arsenals invincibles, Chelsea under Mourinho or SAF's decade+ of dominance as doping.

Even Man City never get accused of it when 34 yr old Fernandinho was bombing around the field whilst they were rocking up 100+ points.

I reckon it goes on but doubt its a club sponsored thing rather a few players likely going rogue of their own back.

The difference is though that if you took Aguero or Silva out of that City team it struggled, even with world class replacements coming in. Kompany missed a few games and they were a shambles at the back. Liverpool lose Van Dijk and some kid slots in like he’s never been away and Curtis Jones is suddenly absolutely brilliant. Robertson went from Hull and TAA had never been heard of and they became the best fullbacks in the world. City have spent 100s of millions on the worlds best full backs and can’t find any as good.

The invincibles drew 12 games in one season. Over the last two seasons Liverpool have barely dropped points in that many games! United under Ferguson would often lose games when their best players weren’t available. Liverpool can smash decent premier league teams 5-0 away from home with key players missing.