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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3


This is the mayor he's talking about, who in 2020 made this statement on LFC fans' behaviour:




That statement concerned this particular event:

 
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No one sees any other person tickets. Getting into champions league finals without a tickets has beeen part of the RS fan experience. The Istanbul and Athens stories that came out were celebrated - were treated like folklore.
That's the truth of the matter.

It's ingrained in their culture to blag in everwhere. They have songs about it, they have banners celebrating it. It's something they are very proud of...and now when it suits them they hide behind sychophantic cheerleaders in the media and in political positions* to get them out of trouble over it.


*The Tory Government they've chummied up to in times of crisis like this. The utter shame of it.
 
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Good point further back about scousers in general running all the main events in this country lol

I’m absolutely convinced that Glastonbury imports the entire population of Walton every year. Never seen anything like it lol
 
But you insisted fans turned up late, which UEFA have now said not to be the case?

So you are believing your government minister's clear lie about up to 40,000 ticketless fans turning up at the stadium? Which all the major outlets in France are questioning?

You are saying there's no responsibility to the police or UEFA or the authorities at all?
All about numbers.
Well let's say that they were expecting and catering for 22k fans and 40 k turned up. Totally overwhelmed, turned to their standard way of crowd dispersal, teargas.
In that case 18k were there who shouldn't have been.
 

This is the mayor he's talking about, who in 2020 made this statement on LFC fans' behaviour:




That statement concerned this particular event:


The Mayor for Liverpool Football Club he is. Just as he was the MP for Liverpool Football Club before that.
 
The people doubting that 40,000 ATTEMPTS at gaining entry make me wonder if they’ve ever been to a big event. Let’s do a little breakdown

Uefa are refunding 2700 genuine tickets who couldn’t get in

So by that logic the stadium should of had -2700 empty seats . It clearly didnt . All those spaces were filled PLUS clear overcrowding in the rows and standing in the stairways leading to the exits All In the Liverpool end .

So a conservative estimation would say 5000 people got in either by force or with fakes or false media credentials ( there’s one lad on Twitter to prove this point who showed his fake badge )

So 5000 x 6 attempts each at gaining entry = 30k that’s far from unrealistic.

Then what about the people who weren’t successful? How many times did they try ?

it’s a fair estimation and those playing it down are naive or just haven’t been to a major event . Everton , Liverpool and UTD are all famous for bunking in

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I've been meaning to re-read 1984 - I think this will will prompt me to pick it up again.
are we both now banned from CA? i mentioned that book many times while active there, read it multiple times over the decades. Amazing how so much rings relevant in todays' world. Trump is deffo Goldstein lol even to the point where in the end
the ideal of Trump his believers have of him doesn't even exist.
 

Does anyone know what happened in Lille then ??

Becasue my view on it was that it escualted as some fans starting to throw bottles at the police who went into the crowd ot target 1 or 2 known infividuals !?!
thats what happened with the riot police . The French undercover plod pulled a stunt to antagonise our fans in the square . It was a training exercise for euro 2016 and Everton fans Guinea pigs
 
You are wasting your time mate. He just doesn’t get it. Can’t seem to grasp that it was estimated 30/40k attempts were made to gain entry via fake or no ticket. He further can’t grasp that the same person turned away at gate D, will try at gate E and so on.

He’s also deliberately ignoring 3000 extra fans actually made it in via a fake, or no ticket at all. The evidence of such is on pics of the stairwells inside the stadium being chocker at the Liverpool end, when compared to the Madrid end.

All the videos of kopites jumping over fences and ramming down gates outnumbering security didn’t happen, we all imagined it.

Wasting your time with this fella. 24 hours of him talking wham, defending kopite behaviour is strange to say the least.
Spot on mate he’s a clown
 
it may even be simpler than that, stick a ticket under the reader, it doesn't read so you stick it under again, it doesn't read so try a last time and when it doesn't read (1 ticket, 3 attempts), you are asked to move aside as Sebastian from Berkshire behind wants to get in and has a bit of gas in his eyes. The first guy, especially if he has a real ticket but cant get in because Tarquin from Cheltenham got in first with a copy of his ticket, gets irate at the turnstile and the security/cops gas them out of the way, to let others have a go at the turnstile.
Spot on . You see multiple scans of tickets now at goodison and away grounds every week. Faulty machine , the sun shining on the barcode , the ticket is fake . There’s loads of reasons
 

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