Yarrgh
Player Valuation: £70m
Only when yellow teeth's head stops swelling and they can fit it through the door. So after the Real Madrid game then when they're knocked out of the CL.
ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3
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Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
3 CL finals in the last 5 years.
3 seasons with 90 plus points (two of them being over 95 the previous PL record before City and Liverpool got going)
Can you point to any other team in England with that type of record?
They’ve been edged out of two CL finals thanks to Ancelotti being a genius and Gareth Bale meanwhile in the league it’s taken a team accused of breaking all financial regulations, have one of the greatest managers of all time, and have had the likes of De Bruyne Silva Aguero Kompany, just to stop them steam rolling to 3 titles in 4 seasons.
All achieved with generational talents like Henderson Milner Elliot Lallana Gomez Origi Shaqiri playing for them
jayden28
Player Valuation: £35m
Canelo,bradley Wiggins,sharapova etc all so called asthmatics like most the liverpool team so clenbuterol is allowed and everyone knows clenbuterol is a steroid.So basically a bunch of cheats.
Stevie Nicks Bootleg
Player Valuation: £8m
Yes, their record of coming close is very good but, considering you tip them to win everything, they've let you down a lot. This season is another one empty-handed, despite you tipping them to win everything- again. I even recall you arguing about that the gap wasn't big enough around November when they were 8 points off the lead already (or something similar). Everyone else bar you could see the league title wasn't happening as early as that stage. Oh and that other poster who also thinks they'll win everything too "put a bet on them to win the CL lads" was one of his corkers a few months ago... (why any Everton fan would want to post this anyway, baffles me?)
Yeah, not up to Chicos usual standards.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
I thought they’d start cycling back on sooner this season. Let’s be honest if they hadn’t have been so crap to lose to Forest Brentford Wolves and Leeds (at home) during that period then they’d probably still fancy themselves for a run at the title now. I was right, the gap at 8 points wasn’t enough, I’m glad it got to well over 10 points because I wouldn’t put it past that lot winning the majority of their games to the end of the season now just as they did in 2020/21. Loads on here called it that as soon as the World Cup was over their form would drastically improve and that’s exactly what happened. A defence that was as leaky as a sieve has now not conceded in 4 league games and an attack force that was struggling with question marks over all of them is now rampant again. Wouldn’t put it past them to batter Arsenal at home, wouldn’t put it past them to blow City away at the Etihad. So yeah I was right when I said 8 points wasn’t enough.
Well considering Klopp couldn’t give one about domestic trophies and puts out reserve teams in early rounds he only really goes for the CL and PL and since he started cranking them up in 17/18 they’ve contested 3 out of 5 title races and 3 out of 4 CLs (so far). So I’m not that far off tipping them to win everything.
To put it into context, the only other team in the modern CL era to get to 3 finals in that period of time is Real Madrid (can maybe count Barcelona who did 3 finals in 6 years). These are largely considered to be probably the two best club teams of all time potentially with players who would lay claim to being the best in their position in their clubs history.
Messi Iniesta Xavi Busquets Suarez Neymar Villa Pique Mascherano Yaya Toure Alba
Ramos Varane Marcelo Casemiro Modric Kroos Ronaldo Bale Benzema Vinicius Carvajal Isco James Camavinga Valverde
Robertson Alexander Arnold Matip Gomes Van Dijk Milner Fabinho Wijnaldum Keita Oxlade Chamberlain Henderson Lallana Thiago Mane Salah Firmino Origi Shaqiri
Can people see the difference between these lists? There’s not a single player in the bottom one that either of the other teams would have had in their starting line ups, not a single one.
Man City have been to one CL final, Chelsea have been to three in their entire history, PSG have been to one. These three sides have thrown every single pound available at top managers and top players for the best part of 20 years yet Liverpool have been to more finals in five seasons than they have managed in their history. With those players. Some people really do need to give their heads a wobble.
GP_Monty
Player Valuation: £8m
What's the story with all their players being asthmatic again, 63% or something wasn't it. Is there a source for that which doesn't come from some russian bloke tweeting from his mum's box room?
Clenbuterol is a banned substance in sports, lot of boxers will use it as it speeds up metabolism and helps with the weight cut.
Doubletree
Player Valuation: £150k
So we can safely say City are doping both financially and physically?
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
I’d be suspicious of both as I am with Liverpool. The difference is I don’t really care about City’s financial doping because it is only what United Liverpool Chelsea and Arsenal did for decades beforehand. The only difference is that financial regs were in place when City started their massive investment and they weren’t when the others did it. I’d want Newcastle Everton and anyone else to financially dope if it meant more competition at the top.
What about x team isn’t really a valid argument though is it.
Sports institutions at the top level of any sport should be fairly evenly matched. In a 100m Olympic race the winning margin should be minuscule. Same with swimming, same with cycling. World records should get judged up incrementally very slightly as technology and science improves. When you see people way beyond the curve they’re either a generational talent or they’ve artificially boosted performance. Records should not be getting obliterated or opposition destroyed.
It’s the same in football. Yes poor teams can get beaten by very good teams by a heavy margin now and again but the top teams should all be pretty evenly matched. Similar training grounds, similar funds, similar stadiums, similar access to top players, similar access to top coaching teams. The only variable they may have is if you get a generational manager who is better than all the rest or you manage to get a few generational players. Maybe then you might be slightly better than the rest in close to title races or get over the lines in trophies.
When teams are winning 4 5 6 7 -0 against other top teams, multiple times. It doesn’t feel normal. When teams are improving by 25 plus points from season to season as City, Liverpool, and now Arsenal all have to set points records that only Mourinho’s Chelsea ever recorded previously, it doesn’t feel normal. When players are having huge swings in form going from the best in the world one season to finished the next and then back again that doesn’t feel normal.
Whenever the statistical mould is broken you have to ask if you’re witnessing greatness or cheating. How likely is it that three great teams (City, Liverpool and now Arsenal (who will prob break 90 plus points) have all come along at exactly the same period, all following the massive uplift in points from absolutely nowhere? That they’ve all achieved points tallies and consistency levels that SAF and Wenger could never manage and that Mourinho only got near once with a virtually unlimited budget over everyone else.
It’s effectively the same argument as supporting team Sky cycling but saying that you just love watching them win, it was never proven, and everyone else is probably doing it anyway. It’s still disgusting to watch to most people.
I've said it for years and I will say it again, all elite athletes are taking PED's.
If only we would sign some elite athletes.
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