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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

Kenshin said:
Apparantly FIFA or uefa going to announce indefinite end to the season. Leaving the end of the season up to each country fa

Kopites- we are getting the league!

Means nothing , they can still void the season if they so wish.
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I've popped something on the other thread. This is a legal position from FIFA though, to ensure the liability lies with the leagues and UEFA/ not them.
 
davek said:
This completely bemuses me. And the media saying "all this is going against who they are".

It isn't. Not a bit of it.

Anyone with any knowledge of Liverpool FC knows they historically have been a conservative club run by Conservative and sectarian bigots. Right from 1892 to the 1980s they were closely associated with Liverpool Conservatism and an exclusive recruitment policy.

They had a manager who made one statement abut socialism (and his definition of it was limited and pathetic, BTW) and all that vast history is brushed under the carpet and forgotten, it seems.

This (the actions of FSG) is CONTINUITY with their historical identity, not an abberation.

They have always had the business ethic first and foremost, and they are a Conservative minded football club.
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Your posts are always the best in this thread, keep up the good work
 

davek said:
The Kopites have done an absolute marketing miracle for that club by portraying a face to the world for years of a righteous club . They've managed that in the face of business as usual for LFC Ltd Co.

The actions of that club in terms of its politics and its disregard for residents is an utter disgrace. The fans have their own terrible history also to cover up, of course.

The media have accepted the myth rather than looking at the reality.
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That's because too many people in the media support them
 
catcherintherye said:
What I find interesting though, is the deep splits it's causing and also the damage to the brand value they've created.

If I were to hazard a guess, I think FSG are potentially exposed in America. America is in a bad way, and it will only get worse over coming weeks. I mean at in Europe we have an end date, we have shut down, controlled the virus and normality will return over the coming weeks. In America, it's chaos, which markets hate.

I think a lot of hedge funds, particularly those around sports are little more than ponzi schemes. If your wealth is based upon implied values, and you borrow against it, you start to get negative equity.

There are 2 broad possibilities with this decision. 1) They are stupid and don't understand that the decision taken will hit them with sponsors and branding, over along period far beyond the short term gain of the cash in. 2) They are facing quite severe cash flow difficulties,after a relatively short period (with a far bigger set of challenges to become).

I don't believe they are stupid, so the former is out. I think the business is struggling. I had said previously the wage bill would be over £300m with the bonuses and contractual uplifts from winning the CL. That would have proven a pinch point, obviously no European final this season for the first time in 3 years, and greatly reduced revenues etc.

It's worth noting that the H & G era really only started to unravel after the the 2008 crash. This recession will be far more serious. American owners will potentially get badly exposed. They have given an indication of how they will deal with it, and it won't be by investing.

H & G got screwed over from the decision. I can assure youFSG will have seen and learnt from that, they won't be able to pull a fast one and wipe off their debt where FSG is concerned as easily.
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It wont make the slightest difference to "the brand", most of their out of town support wont care,they see the city as a place full of benefit scroungers anyway,the overseas support wont give a damn and before long the whole incident will get painted as a sacrificial move by the rs to stop people losing jobs,they as a club have caused the death of 39 fans,decimated the area around the ground,attacked a team coach,hacked another clubs computers,tapped up players,backed a racist,stormed gates and robbed tickets at a CL final and got branded the worse supporters in Europe,yet still get portrayed as a club to aspire to
 
Jonte said:
Somebody on ‘the Ale House’ forum posted that they don’t understand the difference between the words ‘effect’ and ‘affect’.

Effect: noun. Example: ‘Drink effected his ability to walk in a straight line’.

Affect: Verb. Example: ‘He was visibly affected by the event’.

Affected: Adjective. Example: ‘ Danny Murphy’s accent is affected’.
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Not quite accurate. "Effect" can also be used as a verb as in "to effect change." Meaning to bring about.
 
what an infuriating this thread is, wish the rest of the world would open their eyes to this utterly disgusting vile cult. Anyone who supports that rubbish must be thick as sh**.

How can you have any pride at this cult, then again, how many of their fans actually know about the atrocities? They all know about hillsborough but i bet only half actually know about heysel. Football would be so much better off without this farce of a cult.
 
jaycee said:
It wont make the slightest difference to "the brand", most of their out of town support wont care,they see the city as a place full of benefit scroungers anyway,the overseas support wont give a damn and before long the whole incident will get painted as a sacrificial move by the rs to stop people losing jobs,they as a club have caused the death of 39 fans,decimated the area around the ground,attacked a team coach,hacked another clubs computers,tapped up players,backed a racist,stormed gates and robbed tickets at a CL final and got branded the worse supporters in Europe,yet still get portrayed as a club to aspire to
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I think it will hit their brand heavily, especially amongst sponsors. They've put themselves in with the Ashley's and the Levy's. People will start to distance themselves in time. I know a lot of (to be fair their more local fans) fans seem appalled at this decision.
 

toffeejack said:
what an infuriarting this thread is, wish the rest of the world would open their eyes to this utterly disgusting vile cult. Anyone who supports that rubbish must be thick as sh**
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Everybody knows what they’re like

I have mates that support all kinds of teams , England , Scotland , Europe and literally every single one of them finds it hilarious that our locals rivals are hated by everyone in the world.

My mate supports Norwich, and nobody cares when Ipswich are discussed but they all hate Liverpool
 
tommytowne said:
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60 kin nicker for a wallet that was made in a Vietnamese sweatshop. lol No wonder they are one of the most profitable clubs in the world. I know their fans like to plaster themselves with all things Liverpewl (badge man, for example), but would any of us really buy an Everton-branded wallet, ffs? We know we're Blues, don't need to buy wallets, sunhats and socks with the club logo on it.
 

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