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tl:dr?
ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3
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tl:dr?
Strangely, the trainee on the Echo live blog today and the rest of the expert Echo newshounds appear to be ignoring the story about Stevie G's cousin and his agent in its entirety. Despite the fact that the Mirror appears to be featuring it quite prominently...
I wonder why that may be?
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My heart bleeds for the lad on £15,000 a week. I despise all of this player power nonsense, irrespective of the club.
If a club doesn't want to sell you while you're under contract, they are under no obligations to, regardless of how much you stomp your feet.
You signed a contract, honour it.
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Dean Saunders jailed for refusing breath test
"Arrogant" Dean Saunders was told he thought his public profile entitled him to be "above the law".
www.bbc.co.uk
Seems you played around with them figures slightly. Seems we’re clear 4th in the net spend and gross spend, over 60m more net than the 6th team Chelsea. Other than the RS, where you’re over 100m out, I think you’ve just added their figures up instead of subtracting the years they made a profit. The rest of your figures, give or take 20-30m, work out about right.
Premier League - Transfer balance and five-year comparison
In dieser Statistik werden die Transferbilanzen der letzten fünf bzw. zehn Jahre der Vereine der Premier League miteinander verglichen.www.transfermarkt.co.uk
19/20 18/19 17/18 16/17 NET Manchester City £-89.10m £-22.04m £-203.54m £-160.34m 475m Liverpool FC £29.25m £-126.99m £18.56m £4.93m 75m Chelsea FC £79.52m £-124.43m £-53.91m £-21.96m 128m Tottenham Hotspur £-71.10m £4.82m £-15.93m £-28.08m 110m Arsenal FC £-91.89m £-65.03m £3.02m £-92.42m 246m Manchester United £-84.60m £-46.94m £-137.61m £-124.07m 393m Everton FC £-35.46m £-64.04m £-69.14m £-22.59m 191m
That's just transfers and doesn't take into account wage bills. Every single one of those teams have wage bills that dwarf ours. Liverpool's is over £100m pa more than ours.
Premier League finances: the full club-by-club breakdown and verdict
Club accounts for 2017-18 show Manchester United spent the most on wages while champions Manchester City had the third-highest bill
Our wage bill was closer to Huddersfield's than United's or Liverpool's.
Liverpool won’t let a young lad leave
His mental health has suffered because of it
Apparent claims that Liverpool have written that they will punish him for wanting out
Doesn’t matter what you’re on a week, mental health/general well-being is more important than anything.
If they’re seriously treating him like so, it’s a terrible look.
Players are still human at the end of the day.
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If only clubs did the same...
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Silly me — Keep forgetting money makes mental health problems disappear.
Youre right, it wont be the same judge that hears the appeal, I was saying that they may wish to apply to a different magistrate to fix bail tomorrow, but it appears they will do it in front of the same judge today.
usually an appeal from the mags court will be heard by the county court, presided over by a crown court judge. If a sentence was unusual, for example outside the sentencing guidelines it could be taken to the court of appeal by way of case stated by either defence of CPS. A judicial review in the High Court would not be appropriate for appealing mags court sentence (it is the mechanism for appealing the lawfulness of a decision of a public body)
If he appeals, its very likely that it will be the sentence only and not conviction. Drink driving is strict liability and refusing to provide a sample carries the same sentence. He may actually get the 30 months reduced on appeal as you generally get a driving ban of 12-24 months and a fine for your first drink driving.
He will have been given some 'credit' for pleading guilty, albeit not at the first opportunity.
10 weeks immediate custody (do half inside) for refusing to provide a specimen is a harsh sentence - albeit the DJ clearly thinks he deserves it. Refusing to give a sample multiple times does not in itself constitute multiple offenses but rather aggravates the circumstances. I can only imagine how condescending he was. he should though have been given the benefit of a suspended sentence and I think that's what he will get on appeal.
What a horrible man he is.
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We are the 4th highest spenders in the League in the time Moshiri has been here. The original ‘argument’ was about SPEND. But some of our fans gloss over it and bring agents fees and wages into it. We have still spent the money!
What it tells me, if our wages are still low in comparison to the big clubs, is that we’ve paid top whack for average players. Paid all that money out and our wage bill is more comparable with Huddersfield (your comparison,not mine).
Reading the link you posted last, our wages to turnover is the 2nd highest in the League at 77%, with Palace at 78, with the exception of Spursm(39!!), the rest of the top 6 seem to be operating at 55-60. That’s slightly worrying. The 2nd highest wages to turnover ratio, with Stadium costs etc to come? I reckon we could be in for a bumpy ride in the next few years as them figures aren’t good. We have the 7th highest turnover the 7th highest wage bill and still have the 2nd worst wages to turnover. We have to throw more money at it, more wages. At a time when we have a new stadium on the horizon. The turnover of the top 6 and the wage bills (except Spurs)is massive, then a huge drop down to us. Spurs turnover to wages was low as they had the new stadium looming. We cant carry on as we are if we are moving.
[/URL]Premier League finances: the full club-by-club breakdown and verdict
Club accounts for 2017-18 show Manchester United spent the most on wages while champions Manchester City had the third-highest billwww.theguardian.com
Our wage bill was closer to Huddersfield's than United's or Liverpool's.
We are the 4th highest spenders in the League in the time Moshiri has been here. The original ‘argument’ was about SPEND. But some of our fans gloss over it and bring agents fees and wages into it. We have still spent the money!
What it tells me, if our wages are still low in comparison to the big clubs, is that we’ve paid top whack for average players. Paid all that money out and our wage bill is more comparable with Huddersfield (your comparison,not mine).
Reading the link you posted last, our wages to turnover is the 2nd highest in the League at 77%, with Palace at 78, with the exception of Spursm(39!!), the rest of the top 6 seem to be operating at 55-60. That’s slightly worrying. The 2nd highest wages to turnover ratio, with Stadium costs etc to come? I reckon we could be in for a bumpy ride in the next few years as them figures aren’t good. We have the 7th highest turnover the 7th highest wage bill and still have the 2nd worst wages to turnover. We have to throw more money at it, more wages. At a time when we have a new stadium on the horizon. The turnover of the top 6 and the wage bills (except Spurs)is massive, then a huge drop down to us. Spurs turnover to wages was low as they had the new stadium looming. We cant carry on as we are if we are moving.
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How many times have you used the word 'we' there mate ?
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Happiness is more important than anything, of course. But where I come from, if you make an agreement, you honour it. You don't make excuses and that's precisely what this is.
Claiming his mental health has been affected and throwing a tantrum because his club won't relent to his demands is as petulant as it gets.
He's either incredibly immature or incredibly ill-advised, perhaps a combination of both.
Clubs do the same. If a club breaches contract, there are generally consequences and it rarely happens.
He has a year left on his contract. The club are seemingly happy for him to stay. If he wants to leave, he'll need to find a buyer at a price the club deem reasonable. They aren't obliged to accept what HE deems reasonable.
In the same way, if the club deemed him surplus to requirements and wanted to sell him mid-way through the contract to someone who was only offering him £5,000 per week, he could flatly refuse to go and stay on for another year at £15,000 a week.
It works both ways.
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It doesn't. It was his agent who cited that he was on a 'small salary'.
He's playing for the team he supported as a boy on more than £750,000 per annum. He's not on the breadline.
And because he can't leave right now, when it suits him, his agent has claimed that he's feeling stressed and upset.
Tough.
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