Yarrgh
Player Valuation: £70m
Poor lad still can't remember what happened to him in Kyiv (note the spelling).
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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3
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Poor lad still can't remember what happened to him in Kyiv (note the spelling).
Baines' left foot
Player Valuation: £90m
That’s a lot for someone turning 29 next month.
Salah, Mane, Firminho, VVD, Wijnaldum are all 28/29. That’s 5 of their very best players.
Salah, Mane, Firminho, VVD, Wijnaldum are all 28/29. That’s 5 of their very best players.
gwladysnight
Player Valuation: £10m
Coronavirus » Addressing impact of COVID-19 on BAME staff in the NHS
We know there is evidence of disproportionate mortality and morbidity amongst black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) people, including our NHS staff, who have contracted COVID-19. It is critical that we understand which groups are most at risk, so we can take concerted action to protect them...www.england.nhs.uk
Addressing impact of COVID-19 on BAME staff in the NHS
We know there is evidence of disproportionate mortality and morbidity amongst black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) people, including our NHS staff, who have contracted COVID-19.
It is critical that we understand which groups are most at risk, so we can take concerted action to protect them.
The key areas of focus for NHS England and NHS Improvement are below.
You mean something like that?
No what you need to do is to provide evidence of a specific reason why BAME individuals have a worse outcome from COVID-19. A genetic susceptibility to COVID-19. The research has shown no evidence of that. Instead, it has shown two factors the socioeconomic status of an individual and their exposure to COVID-19. When you compare people of the same socioeconomic status and the same exposure to the virus there is no indication that ethnicity alters the mortality and morbidity rates.
The reality is that the BAME population has far more exposure to deprivation and their occupation means they are likely to have a far higher exposure to the virus. Look at 45% of the NHS staff in London being BAME, or look at the number of BAME individuals who work on public transport or who work in other essential services.
The other key divider apart from the BAME population in under 60 people with no underlying health conditions is being a single parent. Again another marker for being exposed to high levels of deprivation.
gwladysnight
Player Valuation: £10m
Why have you suddenly moved from BAME to Black ?
Also, why have you singled out wealth when I have clearly stated that the two dividers are deprivation and occupations that expose you to COVID-19. Finally, considering you clearly have access to this report please do the right thing and post it and stop the government stifling it.
Or are you doing what you usually do which is to post populist rubbish and then hope that no one ever picks you up on it.
Ouch!
@roydo can I put up @gwladysnight for one to watch.
Now i'm not calling him a rs, he just seems a very dubious individual.
He is certainly a rs though
Thanks in advance
Now i'm not calling him a rs, he just seems a very dubious individual.
He is certainly a rs though
Thanks in advance
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
Well in this instance I felt I'd mention black people as a particular community within the BAME community. There's no doubt both occupations and deprivation that are factors, but they are not the only factors. As I've indicated, authorities responses also plays a part. Part of the argument you are exhibiting, essentially "get on with it, you're not in danger" is a big part of the problem.
I really have no problems with people picking me up on anything I say and try to debate with them where possible. I'm not going to call what you say rubbish, it's just ot backed up by science and thus dangerous.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
It's a big deal,and he'll be ok for the next couple of years, but for a lad who relies on pace there will be a decline post 30 you'd imagine.
When we know more about this virus I suspect it will be about genetics.
But till then, again.
Coronavirus » Addressing impact of COVID-19 on BAME staff in the NHS
We know there is evidence of disproportionate mortality and morbidity amongst black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) people, including our NHS staff, who have contracted COVID-19. It is critical that we understand which groups are most at risk, so we can take concerted action to protect them...
We know there is evidence of disproportionate mortality and morbidity amongst black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) people.
Your deprivation bull goes out the window when Doctors earn thousands a week.
You are basically calling it a virus on the poor, there is nothing to suggest it targets the poor or deprived.
Toast
Player Valuation: £80m
No doubt The Pips will be along soon enough as well.
gwladysnight
Player Valuation: £10m
Let's have a look at the actual evidence.
From Public Health England.
An analysis of survival among confirmed COVID-19 cases and using more detailed ethnic groups, shows that after accounting for the effect of sex, age, deprivation and region, people of Bangladeshi ethnicity had around twice the risk of death than people of White British ethnicity. People of Chinese, Indian, Pakistani, Other Asian, Caribbean and Other Black ethnicity had between 10% and 50% higher risk of death when compared to White British.
So why are you mentioning black people when quite clearly it is people of Bangladeshi ethnicity who have by far the worst outcome. Is that because that doesn't back up your prejudice. Can't make outlandish statements about Bangladeshi's and the restart of the Premier league ?
It is backed up by evidence. I have just provided you with a quote from PHE.
gwladysnight
Player Valuation: £10m
When we know more about this virus I suspect it will be about genetics.
But till then, again.
Coronavirus » Addressing impact of COVID-19 on BAME staff in the NHS
We know there is evidence of disproportionate mortality and morbidity amongst black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) people, including our NHS staff, who have contracted COVID-19. It is critical that we understand which groups are most at risk, so we can take concerted action to protect them...
We know there is evidence of disproportionate mortality and morbidity amongst black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) people.
Your deprivation bull goes out the window when Doctors earn thousands a week.
You are basically calling it a virus on the poor, there is nothing to suggest it targets the poor or deprived.
Why are you cherry-picking. I quite clearly based my entire argument on two points. Deprivation and exposure to COVID-19. Doctors quite clearly have a higher exposure to COVID-19 which leads to a higher viral load. Maybe as Evertonian's and socialists we would be better concentrating on the effects of austerity, social deprivation and above all the lack of PPE for front line workers.
Im not cherry-picking.
You asked for evidence and I gave you it.
If you want to talk more about this subject make a thread or use 1 of the other corona threads.
gwladysnight
Player Valuation: £10m
No your evidence was based on Doctors earning lots of money without considering the exposure they face especially when there was a lack of PPE. If people don't want information regarding COVID-19 in this thread then please do not post inaccurate nonsense in this thread.
This is like pulling teeth.
All NHS and frontline workers have been left out to dry by the Tory murder cult, that's not even up for dispute, horrid specimens.
But it has nothing to do with the following statement :
"We know there is evidence of disproportionate mortality and morbidity amongst black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) people"
Thats The NHS suggesting that BAME people are more susceptible, NOT just the NHS workers, ALL OF THEM.
Nothing I have said is inaccurate.