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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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I think the best chairs are those that force others to justify their comments and present an alternative view. That was THE moment of the WC for England and Seedorf, Henry and Rio were able to simply state that a defender should have been anticipating Gerrard's mistake and that he was in no way responsible for the goal conceded. With that sort of unanimity over something so ambiguous it was Lineker's duty to jump in and offer an alternative view...especially if that was what he actually thought was the cause in any case.

People/viewers respond to that and it strengthens the chair's position. Instead, Lineker just rolled over and left the defenders to carry the can.

I agree with you that they should....but they rarely do. I think its ridiculous for the panel to suggest (in particular) Jagielka could've anticipated him making a balls of the header...when he should've left it well alone. This p/poor level of analysis is why I don't watch them.
 

Tad off point, but I like how Cahill has had no blame for marking thin air against Italy, and letting Balotelli a free header.

Yet jags is getting all sorts for Suarez first goal.


Funny how whatever way its looked at, Everton players are blamed.
 
Tad off point, but I like how Cahill has had no blame for marking thin air against Italy, and letting Balotelli a free header.

Yet jags is getting all sorts for Suarez first goal.


Funny how whatever way its looked at, Everton players are blamed.

If Cahill was still playing for Bolton he'd be getting destroyed. He has the sky six immunity around him though now. Its a bit like how at every recent major tournament we've conceded loads of goals despite having the 'world class' Terry Rio and Cole in the backline, none of which of course made any mistakes for any of the multiple goals we let in anf had nothing to do with us going out just like it wasnt the fault of Gerrard Lampard and Rooney as well.

The one player who has taken more flak for England than anyone was Beckham and he's been England's best player since 2000. All these other frauds have done nothing for England then allow the blame to be put on whichever player doesnt play for a sky six side. Never once have I seen any of that lot come out and take a portion of individual blame for poor England performances. Happy to blame the manager, the heat, the boredom, that leftback from Everton, anything but themselves.
 
If Cahill was still playing for Bolton he'd be getting destroyed. He has the sky six immunity around him though now. Its a bit like how at every recent major tournament we've conceded loads of goals despite having the 'world class' Terry Rio and Cole in the backline, none of which of course made any mistakes for any of the multiple goals we let in anf had nothing to do with us going out just like it wasnt the fault of Gerrard Lampard and Rooney as well.

The one player who has taken more flak for England than anyone was Beckham and he's been England's best player since 2000. All these other frauds have done nothing for England then allow the blame to be put on whichever player doesnt play for a sky six side. Never once have I seen any of that lot come out and take a portion of individual blame for poor England performances. Happy to blame the manager, the heat, the boredom, that leftback from Everton, anything but themselves.


Agree with every word.
 

He won't be getting sold this summer, i'd put my house on it, it is in his contract.

Basically his contract predicted the future. If Liverpool finish top 4 he would recieve a top salary and stay because that is what he wanted. If they failed to finish top 4, before the contractual pay rise kicked in he would have been off to the highest bidder and therefore the gentlemans agreement works.

so Liverpool will not be selling him this summer, it will be next summer when they have dropped back out the top 4 again.
 

The media spoke about Jimmy Savile pretty much the same way. They knew what he was and went as far as to look you in the eye and lie to protect him. It's what they do.

How did Martin Samuel get that job? (asked Mikey).

He is a protector of the elite.

Wasn't that Max Clifford?

Thankfully he got his comeuppance.
 
The turmoil over there when Madrid/Barca trigger the rat's release clause is going to book end this summer very nicely.

COLLAPSE<---------->RAT DEPARTS

*chuckles*
 
The turmoil over there when Madrid/Barca trigger the rat's release clause is going to book end this summer very nicely.

COLLAPSE<---------->RAT DEPARTS

*chuckles*

But I thought the release clause was only there if they didn't get Champion League
 

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