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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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The days have long gone when LFC had people at their core with the professionalism and the natural grace to behave in a manner that reflected their club how they wanted. Im thinking of the days of Peter Robinson, John Smith, TV Williams and there maybe more I cant remember as I was very much younger in their times. The regime now talks the talk etc on a loop system..."the Liverpool Way"..."respect and dignity" and all the other Rodgers soundbites that the occasional scarf wearers of FSG lap up. However, the fact remains that now its not a question of them avoiding embarrassment as in the past, but rather simply that they just don't "do" embarrassment and more to the point, wouldn't even recognise it and feel it if it landed on their heads.
 

Jacob said:
The days have long gone when LFC had people at their core with the professionalism and the natural grace to behave in a manner that reflected their club how they wanted. Im thinking of the days of Peter Robinson, John Smith, TV Williams and there maybe more I cant remember as I was very much younger in their times. The regime now talks the talk etc on a loop system..."the Liverpool Way"..."respect and dignity" and all the other Rodgers soundbites that the occasional scarf wearers of FSG lap up. However, the fact remains that now its not a question of them avoiding embarrassment as in the past, but rather simply that they just don't "do" embarrassment and more to the point, wouldn't even recognise it and feel it if it landed on their heads.
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I'm embarrassed living in the same country as them, what I can't understand is their fans don't seem concerned seeing them turn up at the scene of every disaster.
 
The wall collapsing isn't even what killed them, that actually saved lives. The Heysel deaths were the same as the ones at Hillsborough.
 
Jacob said:
I thought that first thing this morning. What really sickened me was the photo holding up the shirts to present to the firefighters reps and grinning like morons. Most clubs pay tribute on tour, be it to a local disaster or worthy cause and its a tangible way of showing respect. This shower do the same and that's fine. However, each and every time, they have to turn it into a gurning mass peacock display of attention seeking. Its disgusting and shows clearly that no one, be it on the Press Liaison/PR side or at any level has the barometer to say... hang on a minute, should we really be acting like this.

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there's only one there not smiling.

why do they feel the need to parade their shirts at every opportunity?

how is having a liverpool shirt going to help the firefighters, are there any "selfless deeds" LFC conduct where they don't have a whole host of press waiting there snapping pics left, right and centre. everything is a PR stunt with them.
 

Brent on his 'philosophy' when he was at Swansea - "People ask me: 'why don’t you run through the forest, through the trees?' Well, I’ve never seen a tree on a football field. Our philosophy was to feel confident in a possession game." lol
 
ste d' indica said:
I held back from criticising too much over the Boston thing due to the genuine connection, I actually thought there was an argument for it there, even though I felt it was possibly more about them than the city and the victims, but this looks like purely calculated PR. Attempting to associate your 'brand and image' with an unprecedented disaster and the spontaneous heroism and stoicism that followed is pretty grim.

Has any other corporate or sports body done this, besides in the immediate aftermath? I wonder why Man City didn't feel the need to, they'd just played each other in the same city.
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Man City now have a genuine connection to the City with New York City FC
 
Khalekan said:
It's quite disgusting, isn't it?

It is Orwellian Newspeak.

That football club is in denial over Heysel and they have all but expunged it from their history.
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On May 29 1985, 39 football fans died when a wall collapsed at the Heysel stadium in Belgium. What should have been one of the greatest nights in the club's history turned into a nightmare.

Instead of leaving Brussels having seen our team lift a fifth European Cup, Liverpool supporters travelled back to England having witnessed the deaths of 38 Italians and one Belgian.

Liverpool had objected to the choice of ground to stage the final well before the friendly banter outside the stadium began to turn nasty inside. Aside from the fact that the stadium appeared to be crumbling, Liverpool's main concern was that there was to be a neutral section of the ground set aside for football fans from Belgium. The club argued that only Liverpool and Juventus should be allocated tickets. Setting aside a neutral area would only lead to both sets of fans being able to buy tickets off Belgium touts thus creating a dangerous mixed area. As history has since proved, this neutral area was soon filled with Italian supporters.

As tempers became frayed inside the ground about an hour before kick off, both sets of fans baited each other through a segregating fence made from chicken wire. After a sustained period of missiles being thrown by both sets of supporters, some Liverpool fans charged at their Italian counterparts and, as chaos took over, Juventus fans fled only for a wall blocking their escape to collapse on top of them. Thirty-nine football supporters died where they fell.

I know we were talking about the obscene 9/11 photo-op, but I need time to digest this article.

Not only did the "wall collapse", but Liverpool supporters "witnessed" the deaths of 38 Italians and a Belgian. How terrible for them on what should have been "one of the greatest nights in the club's history". The whole third paragraph reads like a disclaimer. Once the author of the article establishes that, you know, both sets of fans were at it, the "Liverpool fans charged at their Italian counterparts (you know, the ones who were at it aswell)and, as chaos took over, Juventus fans fled only for a wall blocking their escape to collapse on top of them."

Of course, it was the chaos that did it. The mental backflips this article performed to dodge even the least shred of culpability is astounding.
 
Jacob said:
The days have long gone when LFC had people at their core with the professionalism and the natural grace to behave in a manner that reflected their club how they wanted. Im thinking of the days of Peter Robinson, John Smith, TV Williams and there maybe more I cant remember as I was very much younger in their times. The regime now talks the talk etc on a loop system..."the Liverpool Way"..."respect and dignity" and all the other Rodgers soundbites that the occasional scarf wearers of FSG lap up. However, the fact remains that now its not a question of them avoiding embarrassment as in the past, but rather simply that they just don't "do" embarrassment and more to the point, wouldn't even recognise it and feel it if it landed on their heads.
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John Smith was the one who started the 'it was the NF and Chelsea' excuses off after Heysel.
 

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