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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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catcherintherye said:
I have thought about what you were saying about it being a bad move some more. I think you are right it's a desperate and bad move. I suppose we have 3 possibilities.
1) His agent is a fool
2) He feels backed into the corner by the club who have/are leaking info, so whatever bad press he gets doesn't matter as it's coming his way anyway
3)He knows it's a bad move, but he wants away anyway.

Re the owners they are certainly getting a lot closer with the wages. The problem is though, with Rodgers and the media talking their players up, it gets more difficult to keep there better players. They have a major crisis coming with lots of players out of contract and seemingly an inability to negotiate with them. Henderson has 1 year on his deal.

Yes the Gerrard and Sterling affair will do exactly that. It will re-enforce to top players that they cannot handle themselves. I sense this is where we were at under Moyes.

A mediocre manager, who can't handle big name players. A squad full of average players who are told they are world class. And a tight owners who won't pay the wages to keep world class players leads to a fascinating conundrum.
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The Sterling issue perhaps, but letting Gerrard go to LA is probably the best thing they could possibly have done - much more impressive than the easy option of giving him another deal.
 
theres no boundaries with this nobheads witz

"I was disappointed our appeal did not succeed as I thought it was unjust in terms of him getting the ban," said Rodgers.

In the immediate aftermath of the incident the Kop chief maintained his player's innocence.

"I have seen the Martin Skrtel incident. The ball was played through but it probably looks worse in slow motion," Rodgers said last month.
 
orly said:
And yet US Sports pay their lids vast, vast sums, and they seem to maintain the engagement.

That being said, I have no idea how well supported the second tier of US sport is compared to, say, the championship
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The only second tier of US sports are minor league baseball (fun day out, no diehard fans really). And college - where we don't even pay the players (crazy diehard fans).

Americans are the best (as always) at cognitive dissonance. We complain just as much about the amount those athletes are making. But I do think the per week thing makes it seem like so much more, at least to me.

100k per week sounds obscene. 10 million/year is nearly double that amount, but seems way less insane to me.
 
Just saw this nugget in the middle of all the guff about Sterling. That's right Brendan...turn it round to being a vanity project for you. Hilarious.

Brendan Rodgers reveals heartache as a youth player has given Liverpool boss tools to nurture the likes of Raheem Sterling
Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers has revealed how rejection as a young player has inspired him to give the likes of Raheem Sterling and Jordon Ibe their break in the first team.
Rodgers failed to make it as a professional footballer despite leaving Northern Ireland for England at the age of 16 and training with the Reading youth team.
The Reds manager believes the memory of missing out on a first team spot despite being promised one has helped him to handle Liverpool's young players
Speaking of his experience, Rodgers told Barclays: 'I felt as a young player I didn't get the chance. I was a talented youth player in Northern Ireland.
'I came to England, to Reading when I was 16. I was captain of the youth team and was then in the first team squad.
'The manager at the time asked me to play in the reserve game on the Monday to get some game time then look to make my first team debut on the Wednesday against Fulham.
'When Wednesday came, I was expected to play and it ended up that I didn't play. That hit me probably harder than it should have done.
'I felt that from that moment that I was probably never going to get the chance.'
The 42-year-old believes those experiences as a youngster have helped him to nurture the talents of the likes of Sterling, who has already made 120 appearances for Liverpool at the tender age of 20.
Rodgers added: 'But those negative experiences, I was able to turn them into a positive in my life and in my work.
'I could help young players and prepare them. If I told young players they were going to play, they would play.
'There comes a time when you have to let them go. Sometimes you never know until they're in the arena. They just want that opportunity.'
rodgers failure.webp


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3023249/Brendan-Rodgers-reveals-heartache-youth-player-given-Liverpool-boss-tools-nurture-likes-Raheem-Sterling.html#ixzz3WBKlOVoZ
 

Jacob said:
Just saw this nugget in the middle of all the guff about Sterling. That's right Brendan...turn it round to being a vanity project for you. Hilarious.

Brendan Rodgers reveals heartache as a youth player has given Liverpool boss tools to nurture the likes of Raheem Sterling
Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers has revealed how rejection as a young player has inspired him to give the likes of Raheem Sterling and Jordon Ibe their break in the first team.
Rodgers failed to make it as a professional footballer despite leaving Northern Ireland for England at the age of 16 and training with the Reading youth team.
The Reds manager believes the memory of missing out on a first team spot despite being promised one has helped him to handle Liverpool's young players
Speaking of his experience, Rodgers told Barclays: 'I felt as a young player I didn't get the chance. I was a talented youth player in Northern Ireland.
'I came to England, to Reading when I was 16. I was captain of the youth team and was then in the first team squad.
'The manager at the time asked me to play in the reserve game on the Monday to get some game time then look to make my first team debut on the Wednesday against Fulham.
'When Wednesday came, I was expected to play and it ended up that I didn't play. That hit me probably harder than it should have done.
'I felt that from that moment that I was probably never going to get the chance.'
The 42-year-old believes those experiences as a youngster have helped him to nurture the talents of the likes of Sterling, who has already made 120 appearances for Liverpool at the tender age of 20.
Rodgers added: 'But those negative experiences, I was able to turn them into a positive in my life and in my work.
'I could help young players and prepare them. If I told young players they were going to play, they would play.
'There comes a time when you have to let them go. Sometimes you never know until they're in the arena. They just want that opportunity.'
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So he was an arrogant f*cker at 16 who probably scuppered his own chances of making the grade by throwing a tizzy because he didn't get a game when he was told me might.
 
Groucho said:
I have to congratulate Raheem sterling.

In a country full of greedy bankers, lying politicians and dirty lawyers, he's still managed to become the biggest money-grabbing sadsack around.
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Indeed. I just feel sorry for his employers, he should be honoured to play for them and yet his demands mean they will probably have to ruin at least one more street in Anfield just to pay for it.
 
He's of home to London really isn't he, I love the way they arrogantly think they're better players will never want to leave because they're one of the "worlds biggest clubs".

Waves at Suatez, Torres and Alonso.

In other news the state of the new roof on their shed.
 

Neiler said:
He's of home to London really isn't he, I love the way they arrogantly think they're better players will never want to leave because they're one of the "worlds biggest clubs".

Waves at Suatez, Torres and Alonso.

In other news the state of the new roof on their shed.
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Not a selling club though, no that's them bitters, this is Liverpool football club (proceeds to sell all its top players)
 
Jacob said:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article4400153.ece..

Interesting article from Tony Barrett in today's Times on the broader implications of the Sterling saga...edited in part by me below

There is an elephant in the room at Anfield, a beast of gargantuan proportions that sits in the corner of an increasingly underused trophy room, which everyone ignores in the hope that no one else will notice.

Raheem Sterling is the latest distraction but his most recent antics should bring the problem sharply into focus. For all the attention on the winger’s refusal to commit his future to them, the questions that Liverpool really need to ask themselves are how have they become such an easy club for good players to leave, and how do they stop it from happening again?

Yet for all the criticism, much of it deserved, that has come Sterling’s way for the way his contract situation has been handled, Liverpool need to rise above an emotional reaction and consider why this keeps on happening to them. Why it is that over the past seven years a brain drain has taken place that has seen Xabi Alonso, Fernando Torres, Javier Mascherano, Suárez and now possibly Sterling depart. And why a club who pride themselves on being a member of the elite struggle to assert themselves when it comes to keeping and signing elite players.

In the past three years, Liverpool have tried and failed to sign Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Diego Costa, Willian and Alexis Sánchez with each near miss prompting hard-luck stories of what might have been. Whether the stumbling block was money, trophies or location, they have been unable to get such deals over the line and that has served only to heighten the need for their other transfers to be a resounding success and for them to retain the services of their best players. In both respects, they are finding it difficult to deliver. Selling Sterling, therefore, should be an absolute worst-case scenario that should only be considered if it becomes clear there is nothing within reason that can be done to keep him

There is no question that Liverpool have every right to be angry at Sterling and his advisers for the way they are conducting themselves but if there is one positive that they should take from the whole sorry saga, it is that it has offered them another reality check that they must take heed of. It is all well and good for a club owned by a hedge fund to point the finger at an individual’s alleged financial greed in an industry that actively promotes it but Liverpool need to correct the weaknesses that continue to leave them vulnerable to personal ambition when there was a time when they benefited from it.
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I stopped reading at "brain drain" as that would imply that club actually had neurons to rub together.
 
roydo said:
True. Its also the way they always say £100k per WEEK, as if it is somehow supposed to suggest that they are actually paid weekly, like "Working Man" was in some far flung age decades ago.

Like I read the other day that last year, AC/DC made something like £200 million. Thats about £4 million a week. Without actually doing anything.

And they are seen around the world as a "working class" band. Nonsense really.

Not sure what my point is actually, just an excuse to get AC/DC in a post I guess.
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Well, I'm thunderstruck, but at least they're back in (the) black.
 

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