ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

[jaycee]

I fkin hate them, they're ruining my day off with all their pomposity, self delusion and breathing....and stuff

Hate is too nice a word for the self important bellends I dont mingle with them if possible

 

[toffeejack]

i didn't watch the whole game yetserday but it was as a dull as dishwasher because of it's slow speed. there was no full throttle about it.

 

[paultheblue]

Aaaaaaaaaand they're off again

The mush at the back holding the we believe banner looks like Klopp probably intentionally. When they first appointed him I was worried as he has got a good track record in Germany but I am less convinced by him the more I see him as he just seems to be a one trick pony.
I had been racking my brains wondering where I had seen him before

 

[Yorkie]

Aaaaaaaaaand they're off again

Is that guy having a dump behind the flag? But disrespectful to Germany that.

 

[davek]

Just what they did when they came second...but with poorer players

That's exactly what this is. There's always been teams who have used the front line especially to press intently and be the 'first line of defence'. It's all derivative. All changes in football are just tweaks or incremental in nature and never are the revolution that the footy industry tries to sell them to us as.

How is Klopp's approach substantially different to Royle's when he turned up and got a dilatory team at Everton to tighten up and compete ferociously for the ball and then when it broke our way rely on players like Limpar or Kanchelskis to do their stuff, spearheaded by players like Rideout? I was reading that Limpar once described to Swedish journalists that Everton's style under Royle was like hunting with wolves. We've seen Klopp's 'full throttle' football on Merseyside before. Royle's team was the prototype. Of course, when that Everton side pressed it was mocked by the Kopites as anti-football; now they're doing it and it's the blueprint for European ascendancy.

They're gullible and laughable clowns. They'll eat up all the nonsense about gegenpresse and full throttle and heavy metal football and believe themselves to be on the cusp of a new way of playing...when it's all old hat. Hilarious.

 

[degsy]

That's exactly what this is. There's always been teams who have used the front line especially to press intently and be the 'first line of defence'. It's all derivative. All changes in football are just tweaks or incremental in nature and never are the revolution that the footy industry tries to sell them to us as.

How is Klopp's approach substantially different to Royle's when he turned up and got a dilatory team at Everton to tighten up and compete ferociously for the ball and then when it broke our way rely on players like Limpar or Kanchelskis to do their stuff, spearheaded by players like Rideout? I was reading that Limpar once described to Swedish journalists that Everton's style under Royle was like hunting with wolves. We've seen Klopp's 'full throttle' football on Merseyside before. Royle's team was the prototype. Of course, when that Everton side pressed it was mocked by the Kopites as anti-football; now they're doing it and it's the blueprint for European ascendancy.

They're gullible and laughable clowns. They'll eat up all the nonsense about gegenpresse and full throttle and heavy metal football and believe themselves to be on the cusp of a new way of playing...when it's all old hat. Hilarious.

All the really great teams did it, that's why they're great, It's the ultimate way.
In boxing terms you out fight the fighters and out box the boxers.

 

[Librarian]

 

[toffeejack]

That's exactly what this is. There's always been teams who have used the front line especially to press intently and be the 'first line of defence'. It's all derivative. All changes in football are just tweaks or incremental in nature and never are the revolution that the footy industry tries to sell them to us as.

How is Klopp's approach substantially different to Royle's when he turned up and got a dilatory team at Everton to tighten up and compete ferociously for the ball and then when it broke our way rely on players like Limpar or Kanchelskis to do their stuff, spearheaded by players like Rideout? I was reading that Limpar once described to Swedish journalists that Everton's style under Royle was like hunting with wolves. We've seen Klopp's 'full throttle' football on Merseyside before. Royle's team was the prototype. Of course, when that Everton side pressed it was mocked by the Kopites as anti-football; now they're doing it and it's the blueprint for European ascendancy.

They're gullible and laughable clowns. They'll eat up all the nonsense about gegenpresse and full throttle and heavy metal football and believe themselves to be on the cusp of a new way of playing...when it's all old hat. Hilarious.

different labels because they're teams at different ends of the table. that's all there is too it imo.

 

[Walken]

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That's exactly what this is. There's always been teams who have used the front line especially to press intently and be the 'first line of defence'. It's all derivative. All changes in football are just tweaks or incremental in nature and never are the revolution that the footy industry tries to sell them to us as.

How is Klopp's approach substantially different to Royle's when he turned up and got a dilatory team at Everton to tighten up and compete ferociously for the ball and then when it broke our way rely on players like Limpar or Kanchelskis to do their stuff, spearheaded by players like Rideout? I was reading that Limpar once described to Swedish journalists that Everton's style under Royle was like hunting with wolves. We've seen Klopp's 'full throttle' football on Merseyside before. Royle's team was the prototype. Of course, when that Everton side pressed it was mocked by the Kopites as anti-football; now they're doing it and it's the blueprint for European ascendancy.

They're gullible and laughable clowns. They'll eat up all the nonsense about gegenpresse and full throttle and heavy metal football and believe themselves to be on the cusp of a new way of playing...when it's all old hat. Hilarious.

we had a much tougher group of lads as well, I doubt hendo and can are going to intimidate anyone

 

[davek]

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we had a much tougher group of lads as well, I doubt hendo and can are going to intimidate anyone

Yeah, granted. But it was as much to do with energy and tempo as tough tackling.

 

[davek]

Very apt. That's exactly what's happening.

 

[davek]

different labels because they're teams at different ends of the table. that's all there is too it imo.

Yes. One is sold as desperation the other a way of adaptation for success.

In truth: fundamentally the same 'philosophy'.

 

[Minimeister]

It's too early to judge Klopp. We have to see his team when it includes the world class runner around, Hendo.

 

[PhilM]

aye...and class like Götze, Lewandowski and Reus are a bit of a one-off (just like having Suarez was for them). Current RS squad looks average and as Jaycee says he won't be allowed the same spending sprees until either there's a cull or Champs League qualification. It might become a bit of a dead-end for him as a cull won't bring anywhere near the fees that were initially paid.

Hate to put water on your bonfire but Klopp signed the likes of Reus, Lewandowski, Gündogan, Hummels and Subotić during his tenure.

Worryingly, that to me shows that he is at least to some extent pretty astute when it comes to transfers; be that if they were his actual choices

Bar Coutinho (who is still not on par of Suarez or Sterling on worth) they've not got many assets left to pawn to help revitalise the squad.

So unless FSG put their hands in their pockets he may not get huge swathes of money, but I still worry he'll make some pretty effective signings.

Personally, his appointment is a concern as he is a good manager who will probably get his squad playing well and will add some good players.

 

[davek]

i didn't watch the whole game yetserday but it was as a dull as dishwasher because of it's slow speed. there was no full throttle about it.

Basically they pressed until they got tired...about half an hour into the game.

There was nothing 'full' about that performance.