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Clint Planet said:
*sigh*

[1] See my previous post (about a real gay man being seriously offended by "that's so gay" jibes).

[2] Funnily enough, was talking in work only today to a Jewish colleague about this. I told him all about the whole argument on here with Yid4life and whatever and said to him "So, tell me, is it offensive to you?" He actually laughed that laugh you get from people when they think you've just said something really stupid and said "Of course it's bloody offensive."

Don't shoot me, I'm only the messenger. Maybe that gay bloke and that Jewish bloke don't know what they're bloody talking about, mate.
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thats fair enough but you cant deny we have a large amount of over the top PC brigade types in our society that actually look for things to be offended by, I remember growing up whenever anyone called me a scouse [Poor language removed] or the usual "hub caps" jibes my mum used to say just ignore them and they will go away maybe thats what people need to start doing as a young lad getting fined 10 grand for calling a mate of his gay jokingly and in no way a harming way is madness
 


Bluenose1995:
thats fair enough but you cant deny we have a large amount of over the top PC brigade types in our society that actually look for things to be offended by, I remember growing up whenever anyone called me a scouse [Poor language removed] or the usual "hub caps" jibes my mum used to say just ignore them and they will go away maybe thats what people need to start doing as a young lad getting fined 10 grand for calling a mate of his gay jokingly and in no way a harming way is madness.
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Decent post there mate and I see where you're coming from but my position is this: It might seem like the PC brigade are looking for stuff to be offended by (and, I dunno, maybe some of them are) but my own view is that I'm not offended by it (i.e. I'm not willfully finding offence in things) but I will react accordingly to the butt of the joke being offended by it and/or the butt of the joke being oppressed in some way by the joke being made. Sh*t, that sounds really clunky and pious and self-important but really what it means is this:

It's not enough to not mean any harm. You have to acknowledge that sometimes, even though you meant no harm at all, harm was done anyway by legitimising prejudicial views with your merry quips, as inconvenient as that may seem to you.

I used to be in a dominoes team (I was in my 20s at the time, though you may never believe that) in Southport and some of the lads would tell [Poor language removed] and coon jokes, even though Harvey, one of our team, was from Barbados. They didn't mean any harm at all, of course. But they were causing it because they were complicit in an act that perpetuated prejudicial attitudes against racial minorities. Harvey, of course, would laugh it off because he had no other choice. After all, they didn't mean any harm and if he did kick up a fuss he'd be some sort of uppity n*gger (after all, it's our country, not his), even though he was more of a gentleman than any of us. And anyway, it was all just a laugh, wasn't it? No harm meant.

It's not enough to say "Only joking, mate."

And if you need to be make racist or gay jokes to be funny you're probably not as funny as you think you are.
 
Clint Planet said:
I'd guess you'd be way out on that one. My wife works in a predominantly gay office (one straight bloke out of six, I think) and one of her colleagues was saying to her only last week how f*cked off he gets with the "that's so gay" jibe (and that senor chang clip, no doubt). Like he says, it implies there's something wrong with being gay.

He has a point, I'd say.
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Yeah I get that but I think in this instance Suso meant camp or girly rather than actually liking penis, especially with it not being his first language.
 
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Bluenose1995:


Decent post there mate and I see where you're coming from but my position is this: It might seem like the PC brigade are looking for stuff to be offended by (and, I dunno, maybe some of them are) but my own view is that I'm not offended by it (i.e. I'm not willfully finding offence in things) but I will react accordingly to the butt of the joke being offended by it and/or the butt of the joke being oppressed in some way by the joke being made. Sh*t, that sounds really clunky and pious and self-important but really what it means is this:

It's not enough to not mean any harm. You have to acknowledge that sometimes, even though you meant no harm at all, harm was done anyway by legitimising prejudicial views with your merry quips, as inconvenient as that may seem to you.

I used to be in a dominoes team (I was in my 20s at the time, though you may never believe that) in Southport and some of the lads would tell [Poor language removed] and coon jokes, even though Harvey, one of our team, was from Barbados. They didn't mean any harm at all, of course. But they were causing it because they were complicit in an act that perpetuated prejudicial attitudes against racial minorities. Harvey, of course, would laugh it off because he had no other choice. After all, they didn't mean any harm and if he did kick up a fuss he'd be some sort of uppity n*gger (after all, it's our country, not his), even though he was more of a gentleman than any of us. And anyway, it was all just a laugh, wasn't it? No harm meant.

It's not enough to say "Only joking, mate."

And if you need to be make racist or gay jokes to be funny you're probably not as funny as you think you are.
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To be fair some of them are pretty funny.
 

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