ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

DualityNSNO · November 10, 2017

mikeh72 said:
Know which one you're on about, not a through ball though.

Fair really, as I said "sort of".

Not sure if he did have a (good) through ball last time out. He does however have 2 assists and free kicks have been decent but we don't have anyone to aim for sadly.

Defo think he'll get better as we improve confidence.

MikeH72 · November 10, 2017

DualityNSNO said:
Fair really, as I said "sort of".

Not sure if he did have a (good) through ball last time out. He does however have 2 assists and free kicks have been decent but we don't have anyone to aim for sadly.

Defo think he'll get better as we improve confidence.

For a £45m playmaker it's quite remarkable how scared he looks of even trying a creative pass. You can't say it's because there's nothing ahead of him, because the likes of Lookman, Davies, Rooney have had no problem in recent weeks threading a ball into a striker. It concerns me.

Salah on the other hand creates about 5 chances a game and has scored 12 goals in 17 games. If you could do me a swap right now, I'd gladly oblige.

LouReedwalkonthewildside · November 10, 2017

mikeh72 said:
Know which one you're on about, not a through ball though. Nothing that any other player in the world couldn't do.

Sigurdsson's been totally gash up to now, can't believe there are some who don't see this Mike.

MikeH72 · November 10, 2017

LouReedwalkonthewildside said:
Sigurdsson's been totally gash up to now, can't believe there are some who don't see this Mike.

I think everyone can see it mate, they just don't want it to be true.

BUT IT IS.

LouReedwalkonthewildside · November 10, 2017

mikeh72 said:
I think everyone can see it mate, they just don't want it to be true.

BUT IT IS.

Imagine if he was playing for the RS, they had paid £45m for him, and he was playing this gash!

DualityNSNO · November 10, 2017

mikeh72 said:
For a £45m playmaker it's quite remarkable how scared he looks of even trying a creative pass. You can't say it's because there's nothing ahead of him, because the likes of Lookman, Davies, Rooney have had no problem in recent weeks threading a ball into a striker. It concerns me.

Salah on the other hand creates about 5 chances a game and has scored 12 goals in 17 games. If you could do me a swap right now, I'd gladly oblige.

He didn't pick his prize, we were mugs for going in for him like we did. Honestly pointless to point the finger at him for the price paid by the club, like.

Is it money well spent right this second? No.
Can he come good? Yes.
Same goes for Klaassen and Sandro, but since we're giving no time to anyone as we're blue kopites - whatever, sack everyone, sack Unsworth, dissolve the team.

Kinghowie · November 10, 2017

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/search/19661230/

After looking at the list of SteveO posts on his profile page, i’m convinced he’s a WUM, a very large percentage of his posts are on this thread too and the rest of his ‘opinions’ seem to scream ‘wind up’ to me. Constantly says the opposite to what we all know and see to get a rise. I urge people to have a look and tell me differently.

DualityNSNO · November 10, 2017

Kinghowie said:
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/search/19661230/

After looking at the list of SteveO posts on his profile page, i’m convinced he’s a WUM, a very large percentage of his posts are on this thread too and the rest of his ‘opinions’ seem to scream ‘wind up’ to me. Constantly says the opposite to what we all know and see to get a rise. I urge people to have a look and tell me differently.

Seeing as that's a dead link, I am telling you differently.

Brendan Janus · November 10, 2017

SteveO & Brendan Janus are the same person !

Deckard2049 · November 10, 2017

Steve0 said:
If we include WC & EL qualifiers than Siggy has 5 goals and two assists. It's not quite as bad as people are making out.

You also have to factor in the fact he's been played in about 11 different positions this year with about 1,000 different team mates.

I haven't just made this up either. I've supplied facts. The speedster mis-controls the ball three times as many times as the Iceman and he is dispossessed 2.5 times more.

Facts. Not opinion. I wish it was different as being wrong occasionally would keep me humble but there it is, in black and white.

So if we talk about what he’s done for Everton (I do not care about Iceland) it’s 1 goal and two assists. The one goal coming in one of the qualifying rounds as well. Once again I ask, who has more goals and assists for their club?

I tried to think like you in the summer. When debating the merits of Sigurdsson i and other posters suggested that his stats where definitely inflated by set pieces and a Swansea team playing a lot of their football through him and Llorente. Those legitimate points where countered with “oh so set piece goals don’t count do they” and “assists from free kicks don’t count either”. Well ok then, let’s simplify it right down - how many goals and assists does our maestro have for us?

Perhaps it is actually redundant to compare two very different players with differing skill sets. But in debating who has had more of an impact and been more effective for their respective side, there isn’t even a debate to be had- miscontroles and all that included.

Brendan Janus · November 10, 2017

Sigurdsson is shoite !!

Yarrgh · November 10, 2017

Titus Bramble said:
That’s me convinced

I know... break the bank to get him!

Steve0 · November 10, 2017

Deckard2049 said:
So if we talk about what he’s done for Everton (I do not care about Iceland) it’s 1 goal and two assists. The one goal coming in one of the qualifying rounds as well. Once again I ask, who has more goals and assists for their club?

I tried to think like you in the summer. When debating the merits of Sigurdsson i and other posters suggested that his stats where definitely inflated by set pieces and a Swansea team playing a lot of their football through him and Llorente. Those legitimate points where countered with “oh so set piece goals don’t count do they” and “assists from free kicks don’t count either”. Well ok then, let’s simplify it right down - how many goals and assists does our maestro have for us?

Perhaps it is actually redundant to compare two very different players with differing skill sets. But in debating who has had more of an impact and been more effective for their respective side, there isn’t even a debate to be had- miscontroles and all that included.

Why do you bother?

Bizarre.

Deckard2049 · November 10, 2017

Steve0 said:
Why do you bother?

Bizarre.

Ah your go to line when you’re wrong. I could ask you the same question. We’re all a bit bitter but you’d rather make yourself look like a total idiot than concede that it looks like we signed a bit of a dud for more money than a so called (in your words) Vauxhall conference player. All because he plays in red. If he played for any other club in the league I’m certain your opinion would change. There’s supporting your team and then there’s being completely blinkered for reasons only you know why.

It would be nice if we could move away from the very Moyesian us against them vibe which has defined our club and fanbase for far too long now. Part of that is the ability to be objective about a club we should have been able to catch up with this summer instead of going backwards and further away from.

PITA · November 10, 2017

Kinghowie said:
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/search/19661230/

After looking at the list of SteveO posts on his profile page, i’m convinced he’s a WUM, a very large percentage of his posts are on this thread too and the rest of his ‘opinions’ seem to scream ‘wind up’ to me. Constantly says the opposite to what we all know and see to get a rise. I urge people to have a look and tell me differently.

Pot calling kettle.