ToxtethBlue
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I think you could be right, although Cannavaro has yet to play for the team he's joined in Dubai. The rest of the Italians play in Italy.
England v USA, 12th June 2010
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Take it your Northern Irish?
bluebloodinmyveins
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Indeedy.
Phil Neville Superstar
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You've beat Spain and England in the past few years... don't be ungrateful !!!
bluebloodinmyveins
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Didnt get us to a tournament though did it? So the wins mean very little.
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Whats this extra silver star on some of the England gear ?
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Ah, I see. So you've got that Michigan/Ohio State thing goin' on. Tbh, as much as I love passionate rivalries, that one always seemed to cross the line into borderline weird territory. The whole grown men acting like (or trying to) they're 19 & in college again. Probably b/c I never went to one of those "big" schools where the sports teams are religion. But dated couple chics who went to either of those 2 & somehow that rivalry always ended up creeping me out.
Maybe it was just the girls???
Yeah the whole U.S. soccer sorting is impossible. It's all over the place hell if I can figure it out. But it's growing, which is good. And England still could do for an attitude tuneup
I dunno about the girls, but I find the irony of having this conversation on an English football club board striking. College sports are really the only place where supporter's passion resemble those of English football clubs. Western PA / Northern Ohio / SE Michigan is one of the heartlands of gridiron football; I suppose it resembles the northwest of England in some respects. Cleveland and Cincinnatti have the same gawd-awful orange-and-brown we're-just-Hull-in-disguise colors because Paul Brown, the man who created both teams -- those were the colors of the first Ohio high school he coached. This is one of those things that folks from the Northeast just don't get, just as the rest of us don't get the self-evident (to you) superiority of New York in all things.
The Yankees still suck, though.
Listen, I'm not going to speak for Ghost. But as one of the other big fans of our national team on here, I don't think there is any reason why you should support the English team.
My problem is with the idea that somehow it's better not to. It's like when I buy a big issue or give some money to a busker and the lads at work always give me grief about it. I would never dream of saying 'look mates you're heartless dicks if you don't do this or that' but they feel like it's alright to call me an idiot for how I spend my money. And on here its all how people who support england are idiots and racists and nazis and dillusioned and bitter and what have you. You yourself go on about how we're hypocrites and fairweather patriots and so on.
And I have about as much desire to give reasons for why I support England as I do for why I support Everton. I do. Nobody else has to but I do.
And again the thing is that we're all evertonians. We come on here, we talk football, we disagree but we're all coming from the same place. We all feel gutted when we lose and love it when we win. And when I come on here to talk England, because this is the place I talk football online, I treat it in the same way.
And it isn't. Instead we get Chico baiting us all and people loving it when we do badly. And people demanding that we give credit to the americans and admit that we're awful not just unlucky and jdeezy telling us that we should do better and work harder and demanding that we give him reasons for why we haven't reached a final and how dare we be proud of our team when we haven't done that since 66.
It's like instead of being an Evertonian on an Everton forum I'm a one on a West Ham forum and theres a reason why I don't do that. I have a certain amount of sympathy for Ghost just going, 'yeah this isn't the best place for me to talk about England'. The temptation is to say 'I have my dad, I have the guys at work, talking on here as well is just annoying me. I'll be back once the world cup's done'.
Now none of that means that you're wrong for not supporting England. Fair play to you if you don't but you ain't right for not doing it, either.
*this post was sponsored by the BNP.
We're going through the college v. professional spat right here in Jax. The rabid side of Gator Nation convinced themselves that the promise of a "sold out stadium" would guarantee the delivery of the Chosen One (that would be Tim Tebow - a terrific kid, BTW) to our Jaguars. The Jags went out and drafted four defensive linemen with the first four picks (staying true to best available player on their board). Hence, I saw kids wearing # 15 Tebow Denver Broncos jerseys (that's where he went) by the second night of the draft. We're admittedly undersized for an NFL market, but the idea was that the passion for college football that we're famous for here would translate to a good place for a "one sport" city.
What we've found is that it doesn't work that way. The college loyalty is based on certainty of outcome. At their height, Florida, Florida State, and Miami could go years between home losses. No NFL team can or will do that - the competition is just too tough, week after week. The NFL fans here will have to develop from the seven year olds who grew up with the team who are just getting old enough to start buying their own tickets now. If they could find a freaking job in this economy, that is...
And yes, the Yankees still suck.
They come over here, they eat our cookies...
I would have wrote out a well thought out, incisive reply to that if I could do that, which I can't.
My main problem with the BNP is that they're always having a go at the Indians and the Iranians and the Poles and the Jamaicans and I like all those guys.
What I really want is a political party that allows me to pretend my hatred of the Welsh, French, Scots and Yanks is actually due to logical economic reasons.
That'll be the Conservatives mate.
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I dunno; you don't have to be crazy to have political issues with the way the U.S. behaves internationally, economically or otherwise, and I say that as a Yank. For the French, cheese-eatin' surrender monkeys, I dunno - come up with some Euro reason. You don't like the Chunnel. Their PM's WAG is better looking than your PM's. It's not hard.
Wales and Scotland -- England has been screwing them harder than anyone but the Irish, and for longer, so I'm not sure what you're going to come up with there, apart from the general Celtic fecklessness.
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