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Euro2020 Knock Out Rounds

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So, now the extremely weird anti English are trying to diminish Englands performances because they have been at home.

Really, that is the best that you can come up with.
One person...

And is it weird to be anti English? Especially if you are not English?
 
You don't want them to win, fair enough, that is your choice but come on, you can up with better stuff than childish 'It isn't fair'.

How will it be a Tory win, what if Rashford scores in the final to win it. I doubt he is a Tory, is Boris picking the team now? It is a football tournament not an election.
Naive.
 

I've sent a memo round all the neighbours to keep any flimsy garden furniture safely locked away just in case the result goes Ukraines way
 

That's baffling mate!

You want your own country's football team (which is of mixed race) to lose because a certain section of the English fanbase is booing the taking of the knee?

I agree it's despicable to boo as we have black players in our team who will think the booing is directed at them but I really do believe that it isn't as simple as saying that those who boo are all automatically racist. There are a lot of issues at play...

I have two mixed-race children and am sensitive to and worry a lot for them about racism myself, believe me, but I dislike the "taking of the knee" because I believe it is being imposed on football by forces whose real agenda is not inclusivity but the polarization of an increasingly polarized society. They are exporting this neo far left/right culture war into football now and that has the potential for inflaming the situation rather than defusing it IMO.

People are so distracted by tribal identity politics these days that they ignore the fact that black people died in massive disproportion to whites from a Covid virus that our government/media not only didn't seem to lift a finger to prevent but almost seemed to facilitate. Instead of the people holding these criminally negligent politicians to account the public is instead turned against itself in a ridiculous culture war which is really just aimed at dividing people against each other IMO.

This is what Louie Zaha said about the issue:

"It's becoming something that we just do now,"

Zaha continued: "It feels like we are isolating ourselves from these things that are not working anyway."

Last week, Zaha questioned the purpose of taking a knee before the start of matches while speaking to the On The Judy podcast.

He also said: "Why must I even wear Black Lives Matter on the back of my top to show you that we matter? This is all degrading stuff."

Speaking at the FT Business of Football summit, he added: "Growing up, my parents let me know I should be proud to be black. We should stand tall.

"With taking a knee, sometimes people forget we have to do it. It is becoming something we just do. That is not enough for me."


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Clearly then not everybody who disagrees with taking the knee is a racist, and many are suspicious of the automatic persecution of anyone who expresses his opposition to a political gesture of this kind in football, as a racist! There is hatefulness and intolerance in this behaviour as well as it's a refusal to even hear out the other person's political opinions without just screaming accusations at the person.

But I just don't get why you would not support your own country. We have one of the nicest managers and a mixed-race team, and because of a few morons in the crowd, you are going to deprive yourself of the joy of a memorable cup tie for political reasons?

The whole world has gone mad!


@chicoazul, even in your wildest dreams did you expect this?
 

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