Europa Conference League

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Tbh this whole debate is a bit pointless since we're bound to finish 8th and therefore not be good enough to even participate in the play off round of a tournament that some of our fans apparently think we're above.........

 

[Charro]

Calling other fans idiots is probably not the best way to construct an argument.

Personally I think this whole competition is a waste of time. The rewards are few and the risks are high. How will you feel when DCL or Allan picks up an injury playing a Bulgarian team in this comp that means we drop down Prem places ?

The Europa is worthwhile, this comp is a joke for a club of our stature. Might as well get excited for pre season friendlies at this point.

What stature? We have near enough no history in European competitions.

 

[neil999]

Sounds fun

 

[MrGrumpy]

Everton are currently 86 or 96 in the Co-eff rankings

 

[MrGrumpy]

Christ there are some real idiots that follow us.

Do you honestly think we would just simply jump straight from 12th to CL football. The same people would probably still moan about not being able to compete because of too many games.

Comments like 'what's the point' are actually very defeatist, you may think you are cool and having a winning mentality but it is the opposite. We realists see the long term, are there risks to extra games, yes, but we are not at the top level. It is a step by step process.

Hopefully, we can get into the Europa League (CL may be too far at the moment but we are still technically in the race) but, for me, this will a decent consolation and still a stepping stone to better things.

It is not an all or nothing world we live in and I, for one, would prefer something to nothing.

Win 6 games and we are in the CL as Chelsea would have to win all 5 and they play City and Leicester

 

[blue to the bone]

Calling other fans idiots is probably not the best way to construct an argument.

Personally I think this whole competition is a waste of time. The rewards are few and the risks are high. How will you feel when DCL or Allan picks up an injury playing a Bulgarian team in this comp that means we drop down Prem places ?

The Europa is worthwhile, this comp is a joke for a club of our stature. Might as well get excited for pre season friendlies at this point.

We have not had a stature of note in Europe in over 30 years .
We have qualified for Europe and not done well in it a few times In the last 10 years.
We have no right to be thinking we are better then we are until results back it up.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Calling other fans idiots is probably not the best way to construct an argument.

Personally I think this whole competition is a waste of time. The rewards are few and the risks are high. How will you feel when DCL or Allan picks up an injury playing a Bulgarian team in this comp that means we drop down Prem places ?

The Europa is worthwhile, this comp is a joke for a club of our stature. Might as well get excited for pre season friendlies at this point.

We been in Europe 7 times since we won it. We havnt won a trophy for 25 years, we havnt qualified for Europe for 4/5 years. We may. E in the PL but we arnt above this

 

[JLW]

Personally I think this whole competition is a waste of time. The rewards are few and the risks are high. How will you feel when DCL or Allan picks up an injury playing a Bulgarian team in this comp that means we drop down Prem places ?

The Europa is worthwhile, this comp is a joke for a club of our stature. Might as well get excited for pre season friendlies at this point.

This.
It will be second string players as the big players will be rested for the PL games, it’s a total waste of time and will have no pulling power for players.

 

[longers]

If we finish 8th and don't qualify it just means our stature is actually below the competition, you do realise that, right?

Does this mean that the side who finished 4th in the kazakhstan league and thus automatically qualified for this competition has a bigger stature than us ?

 

[MikeH72]

Tbh this whole debate is a bit pointless since we're bound to finish 8th and therefore not be good enough to even participate in the play off round of a tournament that some of our fans apparently think we're above.........

I would be willing to bet Sheffield United would comfortably make it through the group stages of this tournament tbh.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

I would be willing to bet Sheffield United would comfortably make it through the group stages of this tournament tbh.

We'll never know because they (just like us as things stand) aren't good enough to even qualify for it.

 

[Deckard2049]

Calling other fans idiots is probably not the best way to construct an argument.

Personally I think this whole competition is a waste of time. The rewards are few and the risks are high. How will you feel when DCL or Allan picks up an injury playing a Bulgarian team in this comp that means we drop down Prem places ?

The Europa is worthwhile, this comp is a joke for a club of our stature. Might as well get excited for pre season friendlies at this point.

It’s a tough one. On the one hand, it is a “lesser” competition, and you’d have to be concerned about participating in it effecting our league season. However along with the financial issues raised by the European super league, one of the biggest arguments against it was that teams should never have a divine right to be in certain competitions. You get what you deserve, irrespective of your history or stature. Can we really turn our noses up at this? It’s not like we’re a perennial Europa league club- you can’t really argue that’s our level.

Whether this competition should even exist is probably up for debate. But I don’t think we can outright dismiss it.

 

[Caolam]

Been trying to work this out for the past half hour and still haven’t a clue about the concept of this competition.

So if we finish 7th or win the League Cup we go into this which is effectively a “third tier” European club football competition?

Anyone care to enlighten me, is it something we should really look to avoid?

Apologizes if it’s been discussed before.

You haven’t taken away the number you first thought of.

 

[Lanolin]

Does this mean that the side who finished 4th in the kazakhstan and thus automatically qualified for this completion has a bigger stature than us ?

No, that's why I didn't say 'below every side who qualified for it'. The idea that a team who hasn't won a trophy for 27 years, has only won one European trophy in its history (a competition which was so esteemed and worthy that they later binned it off completely), and who won one dead rubber last time we qualified for Europe, somehow has a stature in the game so lofty that we'd be embarrassed to enter this competition, is frankly delusional. All not qualifying would mean is that we weren't good enough to get in to a competition you think is rubbish. So exactly how rubbish must we be? It's the equivalent of the kid at school pretending being able to spell and count is for nerds and he's way too cool for all that stuff because he's thick as mince.

 

[MikeH72]

We'll never know because they (just like us as things stand) aren't good enough to even qualify for it.

That’s not the point I’m making though. Personally I think it’s a bit of a waste of time for us to be in this tournament and we wouldn’t get any benefit out of it, so if it’s a case of finishing 7th or 8th I’m really not arsed. Finishing in the top 6 has to be the aim this season.