padefc
Player Valuation: £15m
totaly agree ruggers mate my brother is anti moyse these days were im for him but we both agree on we need some changes either the whole board or against my will like moyse
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totaly agree ruggers mate my brother is anti moyse these days were im for him but we both agree on we need some changes either the whole board or against my will like moyse
sharron
Player Valuation: £750k
Sorry fella, weird thing is i have done loads of badges this summer there was hope before kenwright opened his mouth too much
BigBlueConk
Player Valuation: £70m
It's got to be hasn't it. On yesterdays show, there are one or two passed their Premiership best already. Instead of fitting the younger players in, build around them. Playing the old school week in week out will not guarantee a thing.
I am a fan of Moyes , but things look so stale , certain players seem content just to turn up knowing they are never in danger of being dropped.
BigBlueConk
Player Valuation: £70m
I do reflect deeply on these things:
Sack the board - Wont make much difference as they input so little. We need investment, not bums around the boardroom table.
Sack the manager - Again, what's the point? If these players need a new motivator, I am not sure I want them in the team. Any new manager will not be able to add players unless he pays out of his own pocket!
Sell a player or three. The money will go firstly to the bank. I think we need hungry players, not expensive players.
Get rid of Bill. Just replace him with another figure-head.
We are in a bit of a rut ladies and gents. The best thing we can hope for is that the team start playing sooner than later.
Meanwhile, we will have to sell star players to keep the bankers at bay.
Sack the board - Wont make much difference as they input so little. We need investment, not bums around the boardroom table.
Sack the manager - Again, what's the point? If these players need a new motivator, I am not sure I want them in the team. Any new manager will not be able to add players unless he pays out of his own pocket!
Sell a player or three. The money will go firstly to the bank. I think we need hungry players, not expensive players.
Get rid of Bill. Just replace him with another figure-head.
We are in a bit of a rut ladies and gents. The best thing we can hope for is that the team start playing sooner than later.
Meanwhile, we will have to sell star players to keep the bankers at bay.
Seamus Colemole
Previously deathbyropeandglass
My thoughts on the game :
Sure we sucked but we didn't deserve to lose because we were unlucky with Baines free kick, Rodders should of had a penalty and Cahill should of scored.
However we didn't and football is all about taking your chances when they come. We gifted them a chance and they took it, we tried and tried and had a few half chances but nothing great and we couldn't take them.
But we've all seen it before and nothing has changed.
The club is stale. The board is stale. The manager is stale. The players are stale.
Only players to take credit from that game :
Beckford. Sure, his touch is pretty bad when he has the ball but its always has been, thats not his strongpoint. What is his strongpoint is making runs behind the defence. Numerous times he made runs in to good positions but are players just wouldn't play him in, seemed incredibly frustrated and rightfully so.
Barkley. Only thing who isn't stale and it shows. Great vision and always trying to make things happen, played some great crossfield balls to change the play. And worked hard, somewhere near the end the ball was lost in midfield, him and Arteta both started running back at the same time but he busted his ass to get back and Arteta jogged.
Heitinga, Baines, Howard, Distain and Cahill were ok. Not great but didn't stink.
Jags defending for the goal was absolutley atrocious defedning from an experienced Prem and England international player. Failed to control a simple ball and play a simple pass to Neville to let us clear trhe ball, and then walked out of position to where we already had 2 players covering leaving the man who scored enough room to do so.
Osman was worryingly anonymous throughout most of the game. At one point we had a throw in level with their area, Barkely showed and was picked up however no one else moved an inch to givbe Baines an option until our defensive mid Heitinga had to recieve it while Osman just stood in the centre circle, crazy!
Best part of the day was the guy 2 rows behind me in the upper gladwys , best quotes being "What have you been doing all summer Moyes, sticking your head up Kenwrights arse" and "**** off Kenwright, give him a break ill give him a break alright". Which is quite sad really but we were that bad.
Sure we sucked but we didn't deserve to lose because we were unlucky with Baines free kick, Rodders should of had a penalty and Cahill should of scored.
However we didn't and football is all about taking your chances when they come. We gifted them a chance and they took it, we tried and tried and had a few half chances but nothing great and we couldn't take them.
But we've all seen it before and nothing has changed.
The club is stale. The board is stale. The manager is stale. The players are stale.
Only players to take credit from that game :
Beckford. Sure, his touch is pretty bad when he has the ball but its always has been, thats not his strongpoint. What is his strongpoint is making runs behind the defence. Numerous times he made runs in to good positions but are players just wouldn't play him in, seemed incredibly frustrated and rightfully so.
Barkley. Only thing who isn't stale and it shows. Great vision and always trying to make things happen, played some great crossfield balls to change the play. And worked hard, somewhere near the end the ball was lost in midfield, him and Arteta both started running back at the same time but he busted his ass to get back and Arteta jogged.
Heitinga, Baines, Howard, Distain and Cahill were ok. Not great but didn't stink.
Jags defending for the goal was absolutley atrocious defedning from an experienced Prem and England international player. Failed to control a simple ball and play a simple pass to Neville to let us clear trhe ball, and then walked out of position to where we already had 2 players covering leaving the man who scored enough room to do so.
Osman was worryingly anonymous throughout most of the game. At one point we had a throw in level with their area, Barkely showed and was picked up however no one else moved an inch to givbe Baines an option until our defensive mid Heitinga had to recieve it while Osman just stood in the centre circle, crazy!
Best part of the day was the guy 2 rows behind me in the upper gladwys , best quotes being "What have you been doing all summer Moyes, sticking your head up Kenwrights arse" and "**** off Kenwright, give him a break ill give him a break alright". Which is quite sad really but we were that bad.
Seamus Colemole
Previously deathbyropeandglass
Oh and with 5 mins to go they get a corner, we're losing 0-1 at home.
We have everyone back to defend it.
Disgraceful.
We have everyone back to defend it.
Disgraceful.
Simon Andrews
Player Valuation: £225k
(trying not to sound too negative while I write this)
I thought the only major plus point yesterday was Barkley. Neville, Heitinga Distin and Howard didn't do that badly, but overall we were poor, Beckford and Osman particularly and I feel if we had snatched a late equalizer it would have been unfair on QPR.
Fellaini didn't look fit when he came on, but gave his all. Overall a bad day at the office, but one which (hopefully) will be a one off. I understand the booing, although I personally didn't at the final whistle - although I did voice my discontent when our one striker was subbed in place of Fellaini, out of frustration of it resulting in us having no strikers on the pitch when losing!
I thought the only major plus point yesterday was Barkley. Neville, Heitinga Distin and Howard didn't do that badly, but overall we were poor, Beckford and Osman particularly and I feel if we had snatched a late equalizer it would have been unfair on QPR.
Fellaini didn't look fit when he came on, but gave his all. Overall a bad day at the office, but one which (hopefully) will be a one off. I understand the booing, although I personally didn't at the final whistle - although I did voice my discontent when our one striker was subbed in place of Fellaini, out of frustration of it resulting in us having no strikers on the pitch when losing!
Barlows Boots
Player Valuation: £8m
Ha... forgot about that. Even Saha was in our own half just inside the line. The ball was cleared and absolutely nobody could possibly get on the end of it to counter.
The more I think about yesterday, the more I'm starting to detest Moyes and his tactics.
nicky maynard please
Player Valuation: Free Transfer
just watched man ****ty 3 2 up 5 mins to go bolton have a corner and ****ty leave 3 up in boltons half for a counter.everton 1 nil down 15 mins to go qpr have a corner and we leave noone in there half for a conter.says everything.moyes and the players are on massive wages and thats why we are in debt start earning it ffs.
toffee-bhoy
Player Valuation: £1.5m
so so frustrated at most things everton these days .....
sadly under DM our play has such a slow tempo if we were still there now we wouldnt win that game
its not hindsight its commom sense to play with a good tempo vs a team who isnt used to the prem yet ...shocking
sadly under DM our play has such a slow tempo if we were still there now we wouldnt win that game
its not hindsight its commom sense to play with a good tempo vs a team who isnt used to the prem yet ...shocking
The Executioner's Bong
Player Valuation: £500k
Some thoughts on yesterdays defeat....
http://theexecutionersbong.wordpress.com/2011/08/21/everton-0-1-qpr-tactical-deconstruction/
http://theexecutionersbong.wordpress.com/2011/08/21/everton-0-1-qpr-tactical-deconstruction/
Dude, please admit to me that you were Nuno. It was one of my favourite ever moments on this forum.
pines for the retro days*
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Switching Barkley all over the place was pretty poor. The kid's head must have been wrecked.
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