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Everton Agree Fee With Man Utd For Lukaku

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Arrived as an ambitious and hungry young kid, left as a egotistical bell-end pogba wannabee. Set himself up for an almighty fall now as gea gone to a team and manager that expect to be winning and expect 100% every week or your out the door fast no matter what reputation or money you arrived for.

Di Maria, Veron all flopped, van persie, Rooney, all cut adrift despite what they'd done.

Don´t think he´ll flop though. He´ll get them 30 a season for the next 5 years probably and then go to the like of PSG or Juventus. Don´t understand why everyone thinks he´ll be unsuccessful.

Pogba on the other hand will be back in Italy before long. The most overrated footballer I ever saw.
 
Done very well for us, hope we can get afew more quality players in to replace his goals, still not as good as Harry Kane tho
 
Thing that annoys me the most?

All the United fans I work with; try to explain he's really not as good as they think (they just look at goals) and they call me bitter. Bitter? I'm not bitter I'm just warning you about the shin of doom.

Going from Zlatan as a target man to this guy as a target man... sheesh.
 

Don´t think he´ll flop though. He´ll get them 30 a season for the next 5 years probably and then go to the like of PSG or Juventus. Don´t understand why everyone thinks he´ll be unsuccessful.

Pogba on the other hand will be back in Italy before long. The most overrated footballer I ever saw.
I think the reason people think he may be unsuccessful is WE set our team around him totally so he was a success, he won't have that luxury at United and in tournaments with Belgium he has looked a bit gash and they don't set their team up to play everything around him.

He is a boss slotter and will probably be a huge success and score 25+ for them but if he doesn't he will soon feel the heat off the fans and press.
 
haha - well said.

I'd put Kane and Aguero around the same value I suppose, though with a good season and age I guess Kane and his England captaincy could make his the new 'Becks' in terms of marketing and his value.

I don't quite get so much of the bad feeling towards the deal - personally Rom has mostly led the line very well for us and given three good years - and he's entitled to want CL like any player.

If he'd have seen his contract out we'd be well out of pocket - and half the great players brought in this summer have been with an eye on this deal - so we have a lot to look forward too off the back of his largely successful time here.

I was never happy with Martinez but hats of to him or spotting this one.

And Utd have effectively spent £180m buying back players their mgrs sought let go elsewhere!

Indeed, only thing of any substance that Martinez did for us, but even so, Steve Clarke at West BRom did the same a year before.

Cheers Bobby, a good investment, now let's spend it.
 
Think the forum needs some consistency in how we talk about fees / add ons.

I.e we've overpaid for Pickford at £30m (£25m + £5m add ons, but we've had our pants pulled down over Rom at £75m (+£15m add ons + Rooney on a free)

Do we talk total deal value, or initial payment only?
I dont think anyone would disagree that a fee of £90M is acceptable. But the fee is only £90M if and when United hit targets with Rooney, so it's wholly contingent on that. In that circumstance people have a right to look at it and wonder who got the best end of this deal. And of course the whole thing is overshadowed by the feeling that we got Rooney thrown in as a consolation prize and that we're giving United our best (again) and getting their cast offs in return.

That's the context to all this.

Imo, the club thought they had Chelsea in the bag as a destination for Lukaku with a very clean £95M-£100M fee in mind with limited clauses. Something happened to scupper it - Conte probably - and we've jumped on this second best option.

Things have not gone according to plan here. Not by a long chalk.

I expect another dropped bollock with Barkley going to Spurs on the cheap...and of course the ground work to that was done by giving ourselves no wriggle room with Barkley with a take it or leave it approach to him.
 
I'm disappointed that a player of his ability has gone but it was always coming and most were made up he decided to have one season under Koeman as he was leaving last summer. He's made no bones about coming here proving himself and moving on for regular championships league football.

He's a tool for his bigmouth but he's never said he's blue for life or he wants to stay until we win something I think he has been true to his word (although I think Utd is the wrong club to try and go start your silverware collection at at the minute) he never signed a more lucrative contract then moved anyway he said no out of respect to the club for his opportunity. He's a silly privileged impressionable young man who lives in an alternative world to us mere mortals but I don't think he's a been duplicitous or anything of the sort.

That said I hope he doesn't win a thing but I never want players to leave us and win.
 

I dont think anyone would disagree that a fee of £90M is acceptable. But the fee is only £90M if and when United hot targets with Rooney, so it's wholly contingent on that. In that circumstance people have a right to look at it and wonder who got the best end of this deal. And of course the whole thing is overshadowed by the feeling that we got Rooney thrown in as a consolation prize and that we're giving United our best (again) and getting their cast offs in return.

That's the context to all this.

Imo, the club thought they had Chelsea in the bag as a destination for Lukaku with a very clean £95M-£100M fee in mind with limited clauses. Something happened to scupper it - Conte probably - and we've jumped on this second best option.

Things have not gone according to plan here. Not by a long chalk.

I expect another dropped bollock with Barkley going to Sours on the cheap...and of course the ground work to that was done by giving ourselves no wriggle room with Barkley with a take it or leave it approach to him.

What?
 
Thing that annoys me the most?

All the United fans I work with; try to explain he's really not as good as they think (they just look at goals) and they call me bitter. Bitter? I'm not bitter I'm just warning you about the shin of doom.

Going from Zlatan as a target man to this guy as a target man... sheesh.

A lot of my United supporting mates are frustrated thinking they've overpaid lol
 
Indeed, only thing of any substance that Martinez did for us, but even so, Steve Clarke at West BRom did the same a year before.

Cheers Bobby, a good investment, now let's spend it.
We've just got in almost £120M for just three of the signings from his time here with a hell of a lot more to come in the next few weeks.
 
I dont think anyone would disagree that a fee of £90M is acceptable. But the fee is only £90M if and when United hot targets with Rooney, so it's wholly contingent on that. In that circumstance people have a right to look at it and wonder who got the best end of this deal. And of course the whole thing is overshadowed by the feeling that we got Rooney thrown in as a consolation prize and that we're giving United our best (again) and getting their cast offs in return.

That's the context to all this.

Imo, the club thought they had Chelsea in the bag as a destination for Lukaku with a very clean £95M-£100M fee in mind with limited clauses. Something happened to scupper it - Conte probably - and we've jumped on this second best option.

Things have not gone according to plan here. Not by a long chalk.

I expect another dropped bollock with Barkley going to Sours on the cheap...and of course the ground work to that was done by giving ourselves no wriggle room with Barkley with a take it or leave it approach to him.

Chelsea were never going to pay that sort of money though mate. They were reluctant to go above 70. 75 million down, raising to 90 with the cherry on top with Rooney is pretty good business. It's not perfect but it's ok. It's a million miles better than Rooney being sold for 30 (after add ons) on transfer deadline day when we'd finished 17th the season before.
 

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