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"Everton can't deal with crosses"

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nsno-chris said:
Look at spurs, there rise under their new manager is down to that solid defence, which amazingly starts with the front line pushing and harrying the opposition defenders to either win it back or collect the second ball.
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When we were at the lane last season we were in full control until spurts employed that very tactic. Then everyone else cottoned on to it, and we had no answer. None.

That was last season. This has been barely any different.
 
nsno-chris said:
Something that goes side by side with this is our inability, or lack of instructions, to press the opposition. It drives me bonkers, we invite pressure by dropping further off the play, only defending 30 yards from goal, this is the same with the crossing issue, we allow the opposition to put crosses into the box, we stand off them. It's unbelievable and extremely poor management that this is not addressed.

Look at spurs, there rise under their new manager is down to that solid defence, which amazingly starts with the front line pushing and harrying the opposition defenders to either win it back or collect the second ball.

Barca were kings of this, and still are. It'll be interesting to see how the RS adapt to this next season under klopp, but it's something that's a must for us
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Yep for me this is my absolute main point which is so obvious that it's football suicide not to fix such a simple issue - pressing the opposition.

I just don't think we are fit enough tbh mate because we do it on little 5 minute spells here and there but have never been able to consistently do it over the course of a full 90 minutes.

I'm dreading this summer if he's still in charge as he will come up with another load of bull excuse for the players not being fit enough due to the Euros.
 
nsno-chris said:
Something that goes side by side with this is our inability, or lack of instructions, to press the opposition. It drives me bonkers, we invite pressure by dropping further off the play, only defending 30 yards from goal, this is the same with the crossing issue, we allow the opposition to put crosses into the box, we stand off them. It's unbelievable and extremely poor management that this is not addressed.

Look at spurs, there rise under their new manager is down to that solid defence, which amazingly starts with the front line pushing and harrying the opposition defenders to either win it back or collect the second ball.

Barca were kings of this, and still are. It'll be interesting to see how the RS adapt to this next season under klopp, but it's something that's a must for us
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Agree. A high press is key but it's all about doing it in the right areas.

For me, our forward line (so Barks, Rom and the wingers) need to do the pressing, with support from the midfield. It's interesting to note that even with 10 men yesterday, we pressed really well when we had Lennon, Barkley, Besic and McCarthy as the 4 in midfield. All high-energy players and it worked in that W.Ham's full backs couldn't get forward as much as they knew they were getting torn apart on the counter.

For us (or mainly, RM) to mess it up with the sub and then for the players to collapse in the way we did is what the most sickening thing is.

Genuinely, I'd have rather us lost 3-1 yesterday than how it happened. If W.Ham had have outplayed us after going down to 10 men then fine. The fact remains that they didn't and for 75 minutes we showed how good we can be - only to then undo it all.

Back to the high pressure thing.

The key to doing it in the Prem successfully is to focus on getting certain sections of the team pressing at once. I've got no issue with the defence sitting deep, as long as the forward's press high. It conserves energy overall while still doing the job of applying pressure to the opposition defence.

Liverpool have so far not cracked it as Klopp tries it in every game (or did at the start), but swiftly realised that an entire team cannot keep it up at the intensity of the Prem for 90 mins.
 
Whistlin' Dixie said:
When we were at the lane last season we were in full control until spurts employed that very tactic. Then everyone else cottoned on to it, and we had no answer. None.

That was last season. This has been barely any different.
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Before that for me mate; Neil warnock at palace in marine first employed it, schooled us and then everyone was doing it last year,
 
GrandOldTeam said:
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-cant-deal-crosses-west-10997391



This has been mentioned within threads, particularly match day threads for some time. Everton's inability to defend a cross or high ball.

I'd say we can't defend against pretty much anything, but crosses/high balls do seem to cripple us more than most.

What do you reckon? Are we vulnerable from crosses?
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We were upto Chistmas, now we're a lot better. That said if you fire enough crosses into the box against any defence you're going to score eventually, unless it's an excitement free zone of an 11 man Pulis defence.
 

SpurtingLesbian said:
We were upto Chistmas, now we're a lot better. That said if you fire enough crosses into the box against any defence you're going to score eventually, unless it's an excitement free zone of an 11 man Pulis defence.
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Or if you let teams put crosses in at will you won't win games and if you carry on letting them you should not be a manager
 
daz4matty said:
Or if you let teams put crosses in at will you won't win games and if you carry on letting them you should not be a manager
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Nobody LETS the opposition put crosses in, the players are just ineffective at blocking all crosses like most other teams in the league. The fact this is compounded and leads to goals by players switching off or other errors can't be changed overnight regardless of the manager. If we didn't make stupid mistakes or fall asleep we'd be no worse than any other club at stopping the crosses the opposition manage to get through.
 
We need either:

a) new manager
b) whole new defensive block not adopted to roberto's "how we work and how we play"
c) top class goalie capable of making number of extraordinary saves per game to cancel defenders' mistakes
 
SpurtingLesbian said:
Nobody LETS the opposition put crosses in, the players are just ineffective at blocking all crosses like most other teams in the league. The fact this is compounded and leads to goals by players switching off or other errors can't be changed overnight regardless of the manager. If we didn't make stupid mistakes or fall asleep we'd be no worse than any other club at stopping the crosses the opposition manage to get through.
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The thing is though we are known to be very weak in this area and got targetted again yesterday.
Same thing happened at bournemouth .
The easy thing to do is respect the defensive side of the game and get it sorted in training.
Our lack of defensive nous from coco down is doing us a lot of damage and he is doing nothing about it.
 

Some bloke on the radio merseyside phone in was bleating on about Graeme Jones yelling instructions from the dugout as the corners were being taken. Not just yesterday with 10 men and no shape but consistently. Meaning the players were looking over at him yelling rather than the actual play. Same caller was placing the blame for our poor defensive drills on Jones.
 

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