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Everton confirm rejecting 28M for both Fellaini and baines

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Bluerover said:
I loved that post too, although I can remember the 70s and early 80s when we and the RS hated the red Mancs more than we hated each other.
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I remember that too - it was a united, parochial time and back then I would much rather see a happy Scouser than a happy Manc.
 
Coach said:
I remember that too - it was a united, parochial time and back then I would much rather see a happy Scouser than a happy Manc.
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There were more stabbings when we played Man U, but footballing wise, I ****ing hated Liverpool and their glory hunting unusual specimen fans and still don't class them as scousers, more like an infestation.
 
The difference is Martinez wont go to Wigan and bid 5 mill for McCarthy, its important as a club to hold onto our values, it speaks so much of who we are and why players want to be here, not agitate for a move or may want to join us and why "team spirt" is forever being reported as good.

Integrity is a key value of being an Evertonian - fan, player, manager - Moyes has lost all - it was a massively snide thing he did with that bid knowing the intimate details of our financial situation, his relationship with the players, its akin to legally tapping up players to agitate for a move, despite being at the richest club it the world. Ill hang onto the good days we had under him and appreciate them - but he has really lost all integrity for me - glad hes gone.

Ill hold my hands and say i was massively naieve here. Id rather be 14th in the league then loose our values and integrity as a club.
 
To think moyes used to say "we do things with class and dignity at Everton" to coin another phrase at numerous press conferences at Everton "I won't talk about players under contract at other clubs" Well he has been in the united job 5 minutes and already that has gone out the window. Got a couple of mates who are united fans, they can't believe how he has conducted himself towards Everton. The ego of the man will be his downfall, I and many evertonians look forward to him failing at united.
 

Bluesnapper said:
Ah the Analfield derby last season, the one were the worlds greatest Evertonian stood up in their directors box giving us a mighty round of applause because we got a 0-0 draw.

Remember Kenwrights role in all this and his frequent phone calls to Moyes since he went to Manure.
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What phone calls? Do you have his phone bugged? You could be the ultimate ITK although you are full of ****e 90% of the time.
 
mooseatingnome said:
What phone calls? Do you have his phone bugged? You could be the ultimate ITK although you are full of ****e 90% of the time.
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Jamo Martinez said:
Who are the 'we' you talk about? I was watching footie in the 70s and 80s and neither I nor any of the Evertonians I knew, hated Utd more than Liverpool.
I will always want Liverpool to lose. Except in a hypothetical situation where we needed them to win or draw for us to win the title. And you can bet your life the [Poor language removed] would lose then.
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I have been watching Everton since the early 60's and always hated Man U more than our near neighbours. Cannot say I hated Liverpool , dislike maybe but always felt if we could not win and they did, it brought honour to our city. Sadly times have changed and attitudes have become more polarised.
 
Royal Blue Jersey said:
This is a transfer rumour thread, it feels all a little off point, then again I think I'm only saying that because the sight of evertonians rooting for Liverpool makes me physically sick.

I always hated United, who doesn't? A ghost town of a stadium packed to the rafters with a mixture of Manc nob heads and inane Soccer AM glory hunting dickheads. I now hate Moyes - surely one of the top 3 dourest, sourest c*cks in all of sport never mind football, has now substituted his dignity, honesty and fairness - his few redeeming features - for an almighty arseload of unbearable ego, shameless self-promotion and really heartless attitude.

Whatever you feel about Martinez' credentials he only ever spoke in the warmest of regards about Wigan. He was only ever proud to represent the interests of a people and of a place, however small. He never denigrated Wigan for having 20,000 considered a sellout, he celebrated the 15,000 who were regulars. And though when he came in for Wigan players Bill did his haggling best, we only ever offered a fair price and gave a fair deal. We had that sewn up within 2 weeks, whereas Moyes - manager of the world's most profitable club - has been content to string out every last penny from the employers who had only just finished paying him a £4.2m a year contract, who had made his' dream move' possible, who he knew were one of the league's poorest clubs, whose very fans took pride in rejoicing his name.

Yes, I know, sentiment means little in business, but this is football. Sentiment means everything. Football is illogical to its very core, and is only ever an investment for its fans of diminishing returns; we pay more, we get less. If Moyes really feels satisfied in all that he has done knowing that instead of making use of his undoubtedly substantial transfer fund, he has exerted continual disruptive influence on both players and club, utilising the 11-year bridges he has built with our Chairman and Board - the very same he has enjoyed utterly torching - entirely for his own gain then he really is a [Poor language removed]. Just a complete and utter [Poor language removed]. The remarks he made in the press were so crass and showed such a huge sense of self-importance and such a lack of humility I think we all know the answer to that.

But Liverpool... that is something althogether different. I start thinking about Liverpool and I forget all about United; I forget all about Moyes. They're just footnotes of general grievances and gripes I have with football, they can be filed alongside Alan Pardew and modern retail park stadiums. No, Liverpool are something I hate with every fibre of my footballing brain. I hate the fúcking sycophantic, red-draped, reality-warped, victim-complex, badge-wearing, scarf-waving, YNWA-singing, glory-hunting, match-avoiding, pub-watching, snide-sneering, shíte-chatting gobshíteing lot of them. I would consider the demolishing of Anfield one of the greatest achievements of humanity. If Liverpool ceased to exist tomorrow I would rejoice for football. And if I could never see a pro-kopite post on here again, I could die a happy man.



Now that I've gone off topic I'd best do something to steer it back given my initial point - McCarthy is surely Martinez' target to replace Fellaini. Can we get him? How much would you consider an acceptable cost?
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I hear you brother. Particularly on the Moyes and Mancs bit.

He's massively gone down in my estimation due to his behaviour in the past several weeks. Mostly about the claim of knowing us inside out. He wasn't Dixie Dean or a Brian Labone or a Dave Hickson. They really did know us inside out having spent lifetimes at the club.

But most of all is the arrogance they've (Moyes and Mancs) taken on.

I've even unfollowed Phil Neville on twitter. Guilt by association.

I'd urge all blues to do the same. He's Moyes understoody. Don't give him any attention.
 
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Toffeelover said:
I have been watching Everton since the early 60's and always hated Man U more than our near neighbours. Cannot say I hated Liverpool , dislike maybe but always felt if we could not win and they did, it brought honour to our city. Sadly times have changed and attitudes have become more polarised.
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"Well in Hansen, we're all scousers and I'm sure that ball just hit you on the hand, look forward to the replay"

"Stevie Nicol, hope you're OK after that accidental collision with Sharpey as he was about to score, it looked a bit heavy"

"Emlyn, good joke lad, fancy a sing along"
 

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