Everton could crown Liverpool as champions

[BoysInBlue]

My life doesn't revolve around football, mate. I just don't want Liverpool to win the league and think finishing 4th isn't much to shout about in comparison. Sorry if that view offends you.

Finishing 4th, depending on getting through a qualifying round, leads to:

- Minimum £20m influx of cash into the club, first real significant money the club will have had put into it, debt free, since probably the 1960s under Moores.
- Will probably mean the ability to sign Lukaku permanently, along with Barry, and maybe equivalents.
- Will attract a better calibre of player, thus bettering the club.
- Will improve the media perception of the club; hard to continue to call us plucky underdogs/overachievers if we are in the Champions League. No doubt sections of the biased media will try, but it will still carry even less water than it does now.
- Will lead to much increased visibility of the club on tv, not just in this country but around Europe and the world.
- Could lead to glamorous dream-like games, vs Real Madrid, vs Bayern Munich, vs Juventus, etc. home and away, meaning boss away trips to some of the best stadiums in the world, possibly once in a generation stuff.
- Helps satisfy the ambitions of our great manager (and keep him out of the envious clutches of richer clubs).
- Could even attract would-be investors (alright, well, you never know with that...).

Anyone who thinks 4th 'isn't much to shout about' really isn't thinking straight at all and has no grasp on how the club can be advanced, short of a Sheik buying us, which isn't going to happen.

Please use your heads eh lads - Liverpool winning the league might give you all titty lips for a bit, but 4th - if we could get into the group stage - could set us up for the next 5 to 10 years and beyond.

 

[Allezfan]

Finishing 4th, depending on getting through a qualifying round, leads to:

- Minimum £20m influx of cash into the club, first real significant money the club will have had put into it, debt free, since probably the 1960s under Moores.
- Will probably mean the ability to sign Lukaku permanently, along with Barry, and maybe equivalents.
- Will attract a better calibre of player, thus bettering the club.
- Will improve the media perception of the club; hard to continue to call us plucky underdogs/overachievers if we are in the Champions League. No doubt sections of the biased media will try, but it will still carry even less water than it does now.
- Will lead to much increased visibility of the club on tv, not only in thi9s country but around Europe and the world.
- Could lead to glamorous dream-like games, vs Real Madrid, vs Bayern Munich, vs Juventus, etc. home and away, meaning boss away trips to some of the best stadiums in the world, possibly once in a generation stuff.
- Helps satisfy the ambitions of our great manager.
- Could even attract would-be investors (alright, well, you never know with that...).

Anything who thinks 4th 'isn't much to shout about' really isn't thinking straight at all and has no grasp on how the club can be advanced, short of a Sheik buying us, which isn't going to happen.

Please use your heads eh lads - Liverpool winning the league might give you all titty lips for a bit, but 4th - if we could get into the group stage - could set us up for the next 5 to 10 years and beyond.

Or you know remembers what happened last time.

 

[Toffeelover]

Finishing 4th, depending on getting through a qualifying round, leads to:

- Minimum £20m influx of cash into the club, first real significant money the club will have had put into it, debt free, since probably the 1960s under Moores.
- Will probably mean the ability to sign Lukaku permanently, along with Barry, and maybe equivalents.
- Will attract a better calibre of player, thus bettering the club.
- Will improve the media perception of the club; hard to continue to call us plucky underdogs/overachievers if we are in the Champions League. No doubt sections of the biased media will try, but it will still carry even less water than it does now.
- Will lead to much increased visibility of the club on tv, not just in this country but around Europe and the world.
- Could lead to glamorous dream-like games, vs Real Madrid, vs Bayern Munich, vs Juventus, etc. home and away, meaning boss away trips to some of the best stadiums in the world, possibly once in a generation stuff.
- Helps satisfy the ambitions of our great manager.
- Could even attract would-be investors (alright, well, you never know with that...).

Anything who thinks 4th 'isn't much to shout about' really isn't thinking straight at all and has no grasp on how the club can be advanced, short of a Sheik buying us, which isn't going to happen.

Please use your heads eh lads - Liverpool winning the league might give you all titty lips for a bit, but 4th - if we could get into the group stage - could set us up for the next 5 to 10 years and beyond.

Exactly all which was denied to Everton fans back in the mid 80s so what a prospect to look forward to.

 

[BoysInBlue]

Or you know remembers what happened last time.

Which is why I said as long we get through the qualifying round.

 

[BoysInBlue]

Anyone who thinks 'Liverpool 2nd, Everton 5th' is better than 'Liverpool 1st, Everton 4th' is an idiot.

Why would you not want to be in the same competition as that lot next season, earning £20m+ right off the bat? Why would you want to fall even further behind Liverpool, just so you don't get a bit of stick at work or school for a few weeks, or so you don't have to see a victory parade (although the simple answer to that is just avoid the media for a few days and go to the cinema or something).

 

[Allezfan]

Which is why I said as long we get through the qualifying round.

I'm far from convinced a single year in it will make a huge difference no matter when we lose, tbh. The gaps in finances between us and our rivals are much bigger than a single season of european money will make up. See Spurs, Leeds & Newcastle.

It'll be great to watch us in europe, don't get me wrong but I think seeing it as a sea change is overly optimistic.

 

[harry]

Which is why I said as long we get through the qualifying round.

The qualifying round won't be as tough, they needed us out last time to fit liverpool in.

 

[Everton Bulgaria]

Liverpool theshe lucky red baste...rds ! I hope so city or chelsea become a champions, but please god not penaltiepool !

 

[Allezfan]

Anyone who thinks 'Liverpool 2nd, Everton 5th' is better than 'Liverpool 1st, Everton 4th' is an idiot.

Why would you not want to be in the same competition as that lot next season, earning £20m+ right off the bat? Why would you want to fall even further behind Liverpool, just so you don't get a bit of stick at work or school for a few weeks, or so you don't have to see a victory parade (although the simple answer to that is just avoid the media for a few days and go to the cinema or something).

I think Liverpool 2nd Everton 4th is better than Liverpool 1st, Everton 4th. And both are better than Liverpool 1st, Everton 5th.

It's the fans who claim that for them Liverpool 2nd Everton 4th is exactly the same as Liverpool 1st, Everton 4th that I don't understand.

 

[Toffeelover]

But think about the experience awaitng those fans who will want to travel into Europe.

 

[Allezfan]

The qualifying round won't be as tough, they needed us out last time to fit liverpool in.

It will be, mate. The Cl is a club that doesn't like new faces. All seeded so that teams like us will struggle.

 

[dannyboy]

Finishing 4th, depending on getting through a qualifying round, leads to:

- Minimum £20m influx of cash into the club, first real significant money the club will have had put into it, debt free, since probably the 1960s under Moores.
- Will probably mean the ability to sign Lukaku permanently, along with Barry, and maybe equivalents.
- Will attract a better calibre of player, thus bettering the club.
- Will improve the media perception of the club; hard to continue to call us plucky underdogs/overachievers if we are in the Champions League. No doubt sections of the biased media will try, but it will still carry even less water than it does now.
- Will lead to much increased visibility of the club on tv, not just in this country but around Europe and the world.
- Could lead to glamorous dream-like games, vs Real Madrid, vs Bayern Munich, vs Juventus, etc. home and away, meaning boss away trips to some of the best stadiums in the world, possibly once in a generation stuff.
- Helps satisfy the ambitions of our great manager (and keep him out of the envious clutches of richer clubs).
- Could even attract would-be investors (alright, well, you never know with that...).

Anyone who thinks 4th 'isn't much to shout about' really isn't thinking straight at all and has no grasp on how the club can be advanced, short of a Sheik buying us, which isn't going to happen.

Please use your heads eh lads - Liverpool winning the league might give you all titty lips for a bit, but 4th - if we could get into the group stage - could set us up for the next 5 to 10 years and beyond.

I get that, but then I think back to 15 year old me telling myself the exact same in 2005...

Obviously it has the potential to catapult us onto bigger and better things but I'm also realistic enough to think regardless of where we finish in the league we will probably spend the least amount of money out of the top 7 clubs.

If this all ends up being a flash in a pan with us making a quick exit from Europe then it means nothing. Here's hoping we finish 4th, get taken over by a billionaire and finally start winning some trophies...

 

[Toffeelover]

Not surprising if we are the club with the least to spend!

The only aim for Everton FC and the fans is to finish as high as possible iin the league never mind what other clubs manage, that has to be the first and foremost aim. Forget about the rest no matter who they are.

 

[BoysInBlue]

I'm far from convinced a single year in it will make a huge difference no matter when we lose, tbh. The gaps in finances between us and our rivals are much bigger than a single season of european money will make up. See Spurs, Leeds & Newcastle.

It'll be great to watch us in europe, don't get me wrong but I think seeing it as a sea change is overly optimistic.

So you don't think an additional £20m+ minimum income into the club, guaranteed, for qualifying for the group stages, will make any difference to the club? You don't think some of the players we have, notably a couple of the loans, would be more willing to stay at the club if we are in the CL? One player has already made such noises multiple times this season. You don't think retaining such players would help build the club? You don't think playing in high profile matches against some of Europe's best teams won't improve the club in any way - perception-wise, expectation-wise, attraction-wise?

I think you are being incredibly short sighted.

You used Spurs as an example - they reached the CL Q/F, it put Gareth Bale on the world stage, led to his sale for £85.3m, and they made a fortune. Now they didn't invest it correctly and behaved like incompetent fools, but that's not because they qualified for the CL.

Newcastle haven't been in the CL for over a decade. Leeds were like Tottenham, run by fools.

Champions League Group Stage participation for us, if it happened, would be absolutely massive.

And even if you take the business side out of it, as an Evertonian, the idea of us pitting our wits against the best is incredibly exciting.

 

[dannyboy]

Anyone who thinks 'Liverpool 2nd, Everton 5th' is better than 'Liverpool 1st, Everton 4th' is an idiot.

Why would you not want to be in the same competition as that lot next season, earning £20m+ right off the bat? Why would you want to fall even further behind Liverpool, just so you don't get a bit of stick at work or school for a few weeks, or so you don't have to see a victory parade (although the simple answer to that is just avoid the media for a few days and go to the cinema or something).

I think everyone agrees with that.