Everton Fans and our home form

[lancs blue]

I don't think that is the point being made. The main issue is the crowd getting on the team or individuals back. It undermines confidence and plays into the opposition's hands. Every commentator and every manager knows it. It has got to a stage that away teams come and use the home crowd as a tactic against us.

I agree with what your saying but not knowing what Everton will perform turns the fans on edge. There was no fight on the pitch and certainly no drive. A complete opposite to last week. A new manager and tatics will hopefully change the stadium back to a fortress and this will turn the fans back onside. Teams dont fear us anymore and thats certainly at part down to Martinez and the dross he so veremently believes is the Everton way

 

[wainy]

Not even close...but hey ho keep your head in the sand. Boo and groan...it only builds confidence in the opponent.

Why don't you bring a megaphone and get in the street end, get us all going. Face facts, Everton are crap and the fans have had enough of the manager.

 

[PhilM]

I fully appreciate that the atmosphere in Goodison may not be entirely helpful, however it's almost become the norm to watch us lose at home.

The tangible nervousness and the growing expectation that we'll ultimately crumble at some point makes it hard to be inspired, lively and loud.

Yet, to blame the atmosphere in any way, shape or form for yesterday's performance is ridiculous: it was the players who didn't turn up!

 

[Blueblooded]

At times I've found the behaviour of 'boo-boy' fans towards some of our players to be downright embarrassing and unacceptable, but I can sympathise with regular match goers who aren't happy with the dross they're sometimes served up. If the players aren't committed and passionate on the pitch it's not likely that the people who paid to watch them are going to be either.

Contrast the atmosphere vs Chelsea in the QF with that of yesterday's match. If the players turn up, ergo the fans turn up the volume. Stands to reason for me.

 

[lancs blue]

The italian way will speak louder than words

 

[thirdmantackle]

Cheerleaders.

Cheerleaders would arouse the fans from their slumber.
Make it happen Bill

 

[Fresh Prince of Belle Val]

The italian way will speak louder than words

Al dente?

 

[edge]

There are couple of problems here, the fans don't have any confidence in the team or manager, leads lost,record at home the last year or so, and despite the hype some of the football on show is dire,not just now but look at last season everybody was moaning about the tippy tappy, go nowhere football on show
The fans arnt daft they can see through the propaganda there getting sold short, and dont buy into the managers mantra anymore.
The fans have shown they will support the team when they look up for it, not when it plainly isn't working every week, not the fans fault at all give them something to shout about and they wil.,
Look at the west ham game fans were right behind the team,then they implode was that the fans fault?

 

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

It's embarrassing this blaming the fans, a sign of absolute desperation.

 

[evertony]

A bloke 4-5 seats away from me yesterday epitomised what's wrong with certain parts of our support. Probably in his late 30's or early 40's and with his young lad of maybe 5-7 yrs old by his side.
For 90-odd minutes he let off a hate-fuelled tirade of expletives that would embarrass you on a building site never mind in a publically-attended stadium. He was constantly on his feet, shouting that vehemently that he was spitting on the poor bloke in front of him, his eyes were bulging to a point of popping out and the veins in his neck looked fit to burst and spew claret all over his lad and fellow supporters. He was 5 or 6 rows up from the pitch and screaming absolute abuse at Cleverley and Lennon who were no more than 10 yards away. I can only imagine what the poor kid will be shouting when he's next kicking a ball round the play ground. His Mrs will be so proud.
Likewise at Villa a few weeks ago three grown men chatting racist filth at our own centre-forward fuelled up on ale and something more recreational.

By all means show your frustration but no club needs clowns like these.

 

[Moomin]

A bloke 4-5 seats away from me yesterday epitomised what's wrong with certain parts of our support. Probably in his late 30's or early 40's and with his young lad of maybe 5-7 yrs old by his side.
For 90-odd minutes he let off a hate-fuelled tirade of expletives that would embarrass you on a building site never mind in a publically-attended stadium. He was constantly on his feet, shouting that vehemently that he was spitting on the poor bloke in front of him, his eyes were bulging to a point of popping out and the veins in his neck looked fit to burst and spew claret all over his lad and fellow supporters. He was 5 or 6 rows up from the pitch and screaming absolute abuse at Cleverley and Lennon who were no more than 10 yards away. I can only imagine what the poor kid will be shouting when he's next kicking a ball round the play ground. His Mrs will be so proud.
Likewise at Villa a few weeks ago three grown men chatting racist filth at our own centre-forward fuelled up on ale and something more recreational.

By all means show your frustration but no club needs clowns like these.

The three grown men at Villa, would you say under the age of 30?

 

[anton66]

Cheerleaders.

Cheerleaders would arouse the fans from their slumber.
Make it happen Bill

Fluffers would arouse any man.

 

[PhilM]

By all means show your frustration but no club needs clowns like these.

I'm not condoning any of the behaviour you've mentioned, in fact I find it reprehensible, but you're focusing on a minority element of our support.

Yes discontent is growing within the fan base which is spilling onto the overall atmosphere, but most fans are just vocalising acceptable grumbles.

 

[edge]

good article in the echo sums the home form up.
http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/2/821933294?-11192:825:0
an Doyle: Everton fans are finding home truths increasingly difficult to swallow

• • 09:00, 20 MAR 2016
• • OPINION
  • 
  • BY IANDOYLE

Blues showing a worrying lack of fight at Goodison

Roberto Martinez had plenty to ponder during Everton's defeat to Arsenal at Goodison on Saturday
It emerged this week Goodison is in the running to host a world title boxing bout this summer.

And even if Tony Bellew's proposed cruiserweight scrap lasts barely a round, the stadium would still see more fight than was demonstrated by Everton against Arsenal yesterday.

This was the Blues at their compliant worst, a team sorely lacking any sense of direction or, dare we say, motivation.

For those who were fortunate enough to miss the game, just imagine last week's stirring show to eliminate Chelsea from the FA Cup. And then picture the complete opposite.

Bellew, himself a devout Blue, declared on social media shortly after the final whistle he just wanted to “strangle someone”.

We'd never advocate violence in this column (well, unless it's in the manner Bellew earns a living) but you can understand his frustration.

An admittedly deeply unimpressed Roberto Martinez declared the performance as a “one off”.

Except, of course, it wasn't.

Everton have won just four of 16 home Premier League games this season. If they fail to win any of their final three against Southampton, Bournemouth and Norwich City, they will record their lowest ever number of home wins in a league campaign.
It gets worse.

If the three points for a win rule was applied to every season, then the Blues would need to win all three of those matches to avoid registering the fewest number of home league points in a season.

At present they have 16. Adjusting all previous figures, their lowest tally is 24, mustered in the 1888-89 and 1957-58 seasons. In terms of the Premier League era, it's already their worst total.

And one more home league defeat would see them match the highest number in their history, having on four occasions lost nine times.

Conversely, Everton have lost only once on their top-flight travels this term.

The watching Farhad Moshiri will have been given much food for thought as he becomes accustomed to his new investment.

When asked last week about concerns moving away from Goodison could affect the crowd, Martinez quite rightly stated it was the fans and not the stadium itself that makes the atmosphere.

Yet when it comes to the Premier League this season, Everton's players clearly become a different team when at home.

 

[bluestevon]

good article in the echo sums the home form up.
http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/2/821933294?-11192:825:0
an Doyle: Everton fans are finding home truths increasingly difficult to swallow

• • 09:00, 20 MAR 2016
• • OPINION
  • 
  • BY IANDOYLE

Blues showing a worrying lack of fight at Goodison

Roberto Martinez had plenty to ponder during Everton's defeat to Arsenal at Goodison on Saturday
It emerged this week Goodison is in the running to host a world title boxing bout this summer.

And even if Tony Bellew's proposed cruiserweight scrap lasts barely a round, the stadium would still see more fight than was demonstrated by Everton against Arsenal yesterday.

This was the Blues at their compliant worst, a team sorely lacking any sense of direction or, dare we say, motivation.

For those who were fortunate enough to miss the game, just imagine last week's stirring show to eliminate Chelsea from the FA Cup. And then picture the complete opposite.

Bellew, himself a devout Blue, declared on social media shortly after the final whistle he just wanted to “strangle someone”.

We'd never advocate violence in this column (well, unless it's in the manner Bellew earns a living) but you can understand his frustration.

An admittedly deeply unimpressed Roberto Martinez declared the performance as a “one off”.

Except, of course, it wasn't.

Everton have won just four of 16 home Premier League games this season. If they fail to win any of their final three against Southampton, Bournemouth and Norwich City, they will record their lowest ever number of home wins in a league campaign.
It gets worse.

If the three points for a win rule was applied to every season, then the Blues would need to win all three of those matches to avoid registering the fewest number of home league points in a season.

At present they have 16. Adjusting all previous figures, their lowest tally is 24, mustered in the 1888-89 and 1957-58 seasons. In terms of the Premier League era, it's already their worst total.

And one more home league defeat would see them match the highest number in their history, having on four occasions lost nine times.

Conversely, Everton have lost only once on their top-flight travels this term.

The watching Farhad Moshiri will have been given much food for thought as he becomes accustomed to his new investment.

When asked last week about concerns moving away from Goodison could affect the crowd, Martinez quite rightly stated it was the fans and not the stadium itself that makes the atmosphere.

Yet when it comes to the Premier League this season, Everton's players clearly become a different team when at home.

But the only record that apparently matters to the pro martinez crowd is the 72 points one.

nothing else matters, simple things like other facts get dismissed as irrelevant, team progression starts to become evaluated in terms of cup progression instead of the league, home record gets dismissed for the waya record.

the pro martinez crowd really have bought into martinez hook, line and sinker, they even start to speak like him now