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Everton January 2022 Transfer Thread

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bluestevon said:
Seems like it's almost a done thing thst Digne is leaving and Mylenko replacing him, 6 years younger - likely to be on less then half the wages and we should turn at least 5-10m profit over the two deals.

Honestly that's good business especially given our FPP problems. The guy seems to suit the system Benetez wants better than Digne anyways.

Of other stuff I've either heard or seen stuff about.
'supposedly' trying to offload Iwobi and some interest at a fee I'd bite hands off to receive, Mina possibly out too.

Most if the incoming rumours just seem like agents bs or rehased lazy jounalists running rehased pieces from the past.

Patterson is interesting thst hunters ran with it though, so hope thst has some truth. One that is interesting for me is the young Georgian lad at Kazan, he has absolutely shedloads of potential - for what numbers are being floated around (12-15m) I'd a million percent be all over that, seen him a fair bit, still very hit and miss but seems to be starting to produce more often thsn not in games lately, reminds me a fair bit of Ronaldo in his first season at united (minus the throwing himself down twenty times a game act), when he's on though the lads pretty much unplayable vs .
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I think there's a lot in this.

I'm sure people will want binary options- Digne V Benitez etc. It's perfectly possible to think Digne has been a good servant for the club but the manager is entitled to make tough calls. At 28, of we can get more than we initially paid for him, having had what, 4 years of good service out of him, that's a big plus for me.

In a broader sense, replacing a 28 year old, while you can still get some money and bringing in a 22 year old who may be able to match, or even improve upon him is the sort of move we have to do more as a club. This is what Ajax, PSV, Leverkusen, Dortmund, Sevilla, Lille, Monaco etc do. It's what most teams, with our turnover and spend do. The specific situation further amplifies this pressure too, given we are at the limits of FFP and we don't want to go way overboard on it.

To put some reasonably crude numbers on it, and they may not be perfect- but I hope people can get the gist. I'm going to estimate Digne's value has decreased to about 8m around 50% of what we paid. If we sell him for 25m thats a 17m profit. If we assume he is on 100k p/w thats another 5 million. It gives us 22m to play with, to account for a transfer and wages, to break even from an FFP point (which I think is the most the club would sanction spending at this point).

For transfers though, I would assume base it on around 1/3 to 1/4 of the total fee, as it will be written off on that basis (particularly to European teams). Lets work to the premise Mykolenko gets 50k per week and we write the say 19.5m fee off at 6.5m a year over 3 years. That's £9m pounds spent. So essentially we can bring in nearly 3 players of that profile from selling Digne.

If Dom and/or Richarlison go this summer, it would likely allow us to resolve any debt issues we have and probably spent 80-100m on fees. I hope we continue to be prudent with the money, and only really sanction big deals for lads under 24.
 
barneygumble said:
Think you’re right.

But hopefully a fair bit of dough, and a decent relegation clause could benefit.

Never know. Wouldn’t know what we’re commanding for Digne. Is £20m reasonable or are we expecting more?
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Yeah 20m minimum, hopefully 25m or more. Seen some people saying 30-40 but don't see that at all. Who is bidding that for a player frozen out at their current club.
 
I think the manager recently said that he would like to sign a no. 10 because we don't have one in the squad.
I think Onyango will come in as a defensive midfielder but in addition to a left full back and right full back I think we might get another wide player.....funds permitting.
 

catcherintherye said:
I think there's a lot in this.

I'm sure people will want binary options- Digne V Benitez etc. It's perfectly possible to think Digne has been a good servant for the club but the manager is entitled to make tough calls. At 28, of we can get more than we initially paid for him, having had what, 4 years of good service out of him, that's a big plus for me.

In a broader sense, replacing a 28 year old, while you can still get some money and bringing in a 22 year old who may be able to match, or even improve upon him is the sort of move we have to do more as a club. This is what Ajax, PSV, Leverkusen, Dortmund, Sevilla, Lille, Monaco etc do. It's what most teams, with our turnover and spend do. The specific situation further amplifies this pressure too, given we are at the limits of FFP and we don't want to go way overboard on it.

To put some reasonably crude numbers on it, and they may not be perfect- but I hope people can get the gist. I'm going to estimate Digne's value has decreased to about 8m around 50% of what we paid. If we sell him for 25m thats a 17m profit. If we assume he is on 100k p/w thats another 5 million. It gives us 22m to play with, to account for a transfer and wages, to break even from an FFP point (which I think is the most the club would sanction spending at this point).

For transfers though, I would assume base it on around 1/3 to 1/4 of the total fee, as it will be written off on that basis (particularly to European teams). Lets work to the premise Mykolenko gets 50k per week and we write the say 19.5m fee off at 6.5m a year over 3 years. That's £9m pounds spent. So essentially we can bring in nearly 3 players of that profile from selling Digne.

If Dom and/or Richarlison go this summer, it would likely allow us to resolve any debt issues we have and probably spent 80-100m on fees. I hope we continue to be prudent with the money, and only really sanction big deals for lads under 24.
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if dom and richy? ye mate let’s have no strikers
 
Hogwild said:
So if Mykolenko and Patterson are the LB and RB will Longstaff be the CM he apparently wants?

Not really sure that leads to a renaissance in terms of level and performance for the second half of the season.....
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Renaissance?
I'm sorry friend, but we are currently in the middle of a Rafalution.
Once he has acquired all of his own players, that is the beginning of the Benaissance.
Please try and use proper nomenclature for our current timeline.
Thank you
 
While the jury is out on whether Rafael should be leading our transfer business three positives have emerged straight away:

One - with Brands out of the way, clearly decisions are being made quicker - if we can get the Ukrainian and Patterson in within the first week of January, then that is a huge step and structural change.

Second - skewing young and having resale top of mind. Rafael, for all his faults, has indicated that he is willing to consider the future when conducting transfer business. Carlo (rightly in some respects) wanted to buy experience and challenge for Europe immediately.

Three - similar to the second point, but the first signs of us utilising a more sustainable financial model where you buy young, and sell at 27/28. This model, which replicates quality European clubs like Dortmund etc... should allow us to challenge, while not killing ourselves from an FFP perspective.

You cannot argue that Rafael hasn't put a massive stamp on the club, in less than six months he has cleaned out recruitment and medical, while also starting to embrace the academy. He needs to improve tactically and with results, but at least he isn't content with the status quo of the last ten years.
 

AussieToffee11 said:
While the jury is out on whether Rafael should be leading our transfer business three positives have emerged straight away:

One - with Brands out of the way, clearly decisions are being made quicker - if we can get the Ukrainian and Patterson in within the first week of January, then that is a huge step and structural change.

Second - skewing young and having resale top of mind. Rafael, for all his faults, has indicated that he is willing to consider the future when conducting transfer business. Carlo (rightly in some respects) wanted to buy experience and challenge for Europe immediately.

Three - similar to the second point, but the first signs of us utilising a more sustainable financial model where you buy young, and sell at 27/28. This model, which replicates quality European clubs like Dortmund etc... should allow us to challenge, while not killing ourselves from an FFP perspective.

You cannot argue that Rafael hasn't put a massive stamp on the club, in less than six months he has cleaned out recruitment and medical, while also starting to embrace the academy. He needs to improve tactically and with results, but at least he isn't content with the status quo of the last ten years.
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Can’t really knock this strategy mate. Like the post.

If we do get Patterson as well as Mykolenko, then it’s at least changing the transfer strategy and identifying that we can’t just keep having players past their highest peak resale.

Reality is whether you love or hate Digne, we need to rebuild this entire team, so why not sell him get some resale and begin just that.

So yeah, completely agree!
 
AussieToffee11 said:
You cannot argue that Rafael hasn't put a massive stamp on the club, in less than six months he has cleaned out recruitment and medical, while also starting to embrace the academy. He needs to improve tactically and with results, but at least he isn't content with the status quo of the last ten years.
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You mean the main part of his job?
 
Feeder club is a feeder club
Keep selling better players and hope to win lotto with the cheap ones
Then keep dreaming about the winning team lol
 

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