Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread

When dyche considers a player for recruitment I wonder what metric he uses? Is hoofing a ball certain distance a tracked stat? Does possession of the ball make you ill thats a positive as possession and passing the ball on the grounid is pretententious fancy boy showboats , if they're a fullback how many times they've gone over the half way line as that's frowned upon, questions about football philosophy such as do think attacking the goal unless it's a setpiece is unnecessary aspect of the game. It's also important if they do send in a rare cross to attack which isn't that important that there is no precision involved just blast in the goal area and do some physical carnage to your fellow man .Also final question do they partake in bleep tests for fun?
 

Neiler said:
It’s unsettling we’re linked with centre midfielders mate.

If we drop another 20 mill on a signing and don’t bring in full backs or pacy right winger, a smiteing will go down.
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I can see why we might be in the market for a cm with Garner and Tim being possibly weeks away from featuring and not being able to change it up in cm and being stuck with Doucoure starting with them 2 being out.

However it's definitely not the first or 2nd position that need to be prioritised. Lb and RW as you say the most important areas to look at first
 
Curtis said:
When dyche considers a player for recruitment I wonder what metric he uses? Is hoofing a ball certain distance a tracked stat? Does possession of the ball make you ill thats a positive as possession and passing the ball on the grounid is pretententious fancy boy showboats , if they're a fullback how many times they've gone over the half way line as that's frowned upon, questions about football philosophy such as do think attacking the goal unless it's a setpiece is unnecessary aspect of the game. It's also important if they do send in a rare cross to attack which isn't that important that there is no precision involved just blast in the goal area and do some physical carnage to your fellow man .Also final question do they partake in bleep tests for fun?
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He only looks at premier league experience and more importantly if they’ve played for Burnley at some point in their career.
 

All the talk in here about what we need to sign as a priority in January is kind of pointless.

Yes we do need a new left back and right back and a ps eoy right winger.

But as the system Dyche uses demands the wingers play essentially as an extra fullback, and the fullbacks are expected to protect the defence and rarely go forward.

Then we won't play any incoming player unless they adjust to that role. We could sign prime Roberto Carlos and Robben and both would be expected to put a shift in and primarily defend rarely getting forward.

Unless we get rid of Dyche it's just moving the deckchairs around on the titanic - nothing fundamentally will change about how we play.

Most important change is the manager, he needs binning off - 3 wins all season 7 wins in the calendar year - 15 goals scored in half a season (year one game in hand but it's the derby and we would have been absolutely hammered).

You stick with a manager when they show some signs of progression, Ipswich will because they are starting to show some signs they are adjusting now. But Dyche seems to be regressing if anything - at a point his style of managing always goes stale - it did at Burnley - and it looks that way here too now.

Only way we survive under Dyche is by there being three teams massively inferior - problem is this season I don't think there is three - only saints look dead in the water, Leicester maybe, but Ipswich not so much anymore.

We cannot score goals, we have a propensity to fall apart when going behind. We only know how to play one way, which is super defensive even at home v crap teams. Martinez got criticised and ultimately fired for the inability to coach defensive play or set pieces. Dyche has clearly shown he likewise doesn't or can't coach offensive play (set our pieces look awful too), the super defensive thing can work out if you are always the one being chased by teams m, problem lies is what happens if the pressure starts being on us to go out and get points to catch teams - Dyche can't coach a team to go and try win a game.

Long winded way to say "sack the ginger gravy guzzling beaut" before it's too late, break right after new year is a time to get a new guy in with the cup game an easy first game in charge and a window to be able to bring in a few additions to help transition to a new style
 
Neiler said:
It’s unsettling we’re linked with centre midfielders mate.

If we drop another 20 mill on a signing and don’t bring in full backs or pacy right winger, a smiteing will go down.
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We absolutely do need a central midfield player because although we do currently have options, we lack any sort of quality in the most vital area of the pitch. Every central midfield player currently on the books are bang average at best and we lose every single midfield battle no matter who we come up against.
 
bluestevon said:
All the talk in here about what we need to sign as a priority in January is kind of pointless.

Yes we do need a new left back and right back and a ps eoy right winger.

But as the system Dyche uses demands the wingers play essentially as an extra fullback, and the fullbacks are expected to protect the defence and rarely go forward.

Then we won't play any incoming player unless they adjust to that role. We could sign prime Roberto Carlos and Robben and both would be expected to put a shift in and primarily defend rarely getting forward.

Unless we get rid of Dyche it's just moving the deckchairs around on the titanic - nothing fundamentally will change about how we play.

Most important change is the manager, he needs binning off - 3 wins all season 7 wins in the calendar year - 15 goals scored in half a season (year one game in hand but it's the derby and we would have been absolutely hammered).

You stick with a manager when they show some signs of progression, Ipswich will because they are starting to show some signs they are adjusting now. But Dyche seems to be regressing if anything - at a point his style of managing always goes stale - it did at Burnley - and it looks that way here too now.

Only way we survive under Dyche is by there being three teams massively inferior - problem is this season I don't think there is three - only saints look dead in the water, Leicester maybe, but Ipswich not so much anymore.

We cannot score goals, we have a propensity to fall apart when going behind. We only know how to play one way, which is super defensive even at home v crap teams. Martinez got criticised and ultimately fired for the inability to coach defensive play or set pieces. Dyche has clearly shown he likewise doesn't or can't coach offensive play (set our pieces look awful too), the super defensive thing can work out if you are always the one being chased by teams m, problem lies is what happens if the pressure starts being on us to go out and get points to catch teams - Dyche can't coach a team to go and try win a game.

Long winded way to say "sack the ginger gravy guzzling beaut" before it's too late, break right after new year is a time to get a new guy in with the cup game an easy first game in charge and a window to be able to bring in a few additions to help transition to a new style
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We hired Carlo Ancelotti and he went even more defensive, player-wise.

There is no pace in the team.

If we added Diarra & Gnonto for example then the counter attacks go from being slow and laboured to rapid. Their speed also gets them up with a centre forward when Tarkowski is punting a ball up the pitch.

Big difference.
 
Aries said:
We absolutely do need a central midfield player because although we do currently have options, we lack any sort of quality in the most vital area of the pitch. Every central midfield player currently on the books are bang average at best and we lose every single midfield battle no matter who we come up against.
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Also with the summer incoming we can't look past we will have hardly any players left on the books.

Can't just keep kicking the can down the road.

Doucoure is a woeful player, Gueye is 36 next season, Mangala is a loan with a 30m option, for various reasons none should be here next season. That gives us Garner and Tim remaining, so clearly we need two centre mids minimum. Left back - need a starter - right back - need a starter, CB - if Branthwaite stays then likely need to bring in a fourth one. Wingers - need a right winger, and even if Broja stayed we'd need another forward too, need a backup keeper - arguably need then a couple of players capable of covering positions like RB/lb/wide.

Get a couple of those positions sorted in January - otherwise this summer we will need to try to bed in a ridiculous number of players to even have a functioning squad.

Not even counting other issues like the fact Tarkowski this season is looking like he's regressed hugely - will Garners back be a long term problem etc.

For interests sake of the starting 11 v Chelsea the following will be under contract next summer.

Pickford, Mykolenko, Branthwaite, Tarkowski, Ndiaye.

6 starters won't be here 2 loans, 4 players OOC in the summer.

Even if we slot in a different right back, right winger and striker - then both first options are loan players replacing other loan or ooc players - so no better there.

If the five who started who will be here - Mykolenko is woeful and Tarkowski looks like he's hit the wall this season also.

Could argue seriously that only Pickford, Branthwaite and Ndiaye are good enough to not be thinking seriously about having to replace.

Need a bigger rebuild than when Kendall first arrived, why it's a perfect time surely to completely change direction and implement a system under a DoF new manager team.

Situation looks a bit better if we use players we had e in a system that suits them - Patterson would be a better ring back, O'Brien suits a back three, Lindstrom and Ndiaye both would suit a three up top system etc.

But whichever way you look at it we have a monumental rebuild ahead
 
Zatara said:
We hired Carlo Ancelotti and he went even more defensive, player-wise.

There is no pace in the team.

If we added Diarra & Gnonto for example then the counter attacks go from being slow and laboured to rapid. Their speed also gets them up with a centre forward when Tarkowski is punting a ball up the pitch.

Big difference.
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Adding pace changes nothing under this system mate unless those fast players are given more attacking licence - Lindstrom and Ndiaye - neither are slow like Harrison or McNeil say, but on any counter they are often starting from right or left back - pace isn't getting you up from that position.

Not struck on Gnoto either, Leeds are in a mess financially yet he's the one player noone really attempted to sign besides us. Makes me think that there's a lot of doubts if he can cut it at a higher level - Diarra dies look very talented though.

We also need to sod off utility players as a strategy, you just end up with players able to play mediocre in a variety of positions, meaning you end up with a team of mediocre quality players across the park.

Decide on a system due the club, but players who fit that system rather than being some half way stop allowing change.

On that hope Garner should be entirely focusing on playing vente mid in the Barry type role for example not right back, wide right or wherever he's needed this week etc. make it his position train accordingly.
 

bluestevon said:
Adding pace changes nothing under this system mate unless those fast players are given more attacking licence - Lindstrom and Ndiaye - neither are slow like Harrison or McNeil say, but on any counter they are often starting from right or left back - pace isn't getting you up from that position.

Not struck on Gnoto either, Leeds are in a mess financially yet he's the one player noone really attempted to sign besides us. Makes me think that there's a lot of doubts if he can cut it at a higher level - Diarra dies look very talented though.

We also need to sod off utility players as a strategy, you just end up with players able to play mediocre in a variety of positions, meaning you end up with a team of mediocre quality players across the park.

Decide on a system due the club, but players who fit that system rather than being some half way stop allowing change.

On that hope Garner should be entirely focusing on playing vente mid in the Barry type role for example not right back, wide right or wherever he's needed this week etc. make it his position train accordingly.
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The beauty with Ndiaye is that he gets us up the pitch and past players, Diarra and Gnonto (based on what they do at their current clubs) would do the same. All three would be lively players and can swap positions all game -- something a new manager can benefit from.

Doucoure and Harrison in comparison give the ball to the opposition and dont have the trickery these two bring. I think we'd see a huge difference in attacking play.

Not to mention they can actually place shots :)

Hard to say whether either can make an instant impact though they add the pace we need and the ball carrying we lack.

If not these two then there must be more.

Both will be 'just 21' (Jan/Nov) and would be good players to have for either long term (at least in the squad) or to move on in future.
 
Gnonto is hardly tearing it up in the championship so far this season (4 goals, 5 assists).
I think Everton needs 2 wingers who consistently create chances every game.
Can Gnonto make that step up to the PL and be that player…
 

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