Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread

[Zatara]

Lad you were advocating spending 60million (SIX-TY) on Chris Rigg and Tyler Dibling last week. Are you high?

Whisper it...the club has been bought by a group who generated over $11billion in revenue last year.

Look at the amount theyve sunk into Roma.

Now remind me what correlation these two players have with new ownership and the previous windows and my post?

The answer is none.

 

[Zatara]

Weird this PSR thing - brushes over the fact we've sold Beto for half what we paid ?

Like when you purchase an asset and it depreciates in value over a period of time.

The value of a player signed for e.g £50mil on a 5 year deal will decrease each year by £10mil.

So in 2 years if you sell for £30mil its breakeven

 

[oglop44]

Option A: Straight sale.
Payment structure irrelevant, selling club may put the entire fee as revenue for PSR (to later be removed from any outstanding pending payments).

Option B: Loan with obligation
Player sent on loan with a fee coming immediately onto the books. The remainder of the fee is payable upon completion of the loan when the full amount of the transfer is shown as in 'A'. The benefits here are 1: Instant amount on the books. 2: The players book value being lower upon completion of the loan so the fee goes further for PSR/FFP

Whats this option C if its different?

Your option A has the full book price being amortised. Option C has only 1 year being amortised at the point of the loan, and any further years being amortised at the point of sale.

Option C is option b but with the fees switched. It's not as complicated as maybe you're thinking it is.

 

[catcherintherye]

Mate … he’s been our main striker for the last 6-7 years.

And your missing the point .

If you have Richy the same chances as DCL he would score more

If you give 90% of the first choice strikers in the prem the exact same chances as dom

They’d score more

So even when dom “does well” you know that we would still have more goals with another player… as his finishing is by far the weakest part of his game

But Richarlison didn't really score more, often in better teams. And he's the only one that is comparable.

And look, I've given a list of about 15 other players we have had, and none of them score more goals. So at some point people surely have to face reality?

 

[blueblood]

I can give them information. He’s scored 2 goals for Everton this season. In 17 appearances. He has no assists.

 

[pfim]

Option A: Straight sale.
Payment structure irrelevant, selling club may put the entire fee as revenue for PSR (to later be removed from any outstanding pending payments).

Option B: Loan with obligation
Player sent on loan with a fee coming immediately onto the books. The remainder of the fee is payable upon completion of the loan when the full amount of the transfer is shown as in 'A'. The benefits here are 1: Instant amount on the books. 2: The players book value being lower upon completion of the loan so the fee goes further for PSR/FFP

Whats this option C if its different?

Timing. For ease of use, let's assume Beto is loaned for 13.5 million and he has 13.5 million left in the amortization of his original fee.

Loaning him for a 13.5 million fee in January 2025 means that we record revenue of 13.5 million in the accounts for 2024/2025, with one year of amortization booked on his original fee.

Then on July 1 2025, when fiscal 2026 starts, he's sold for a nominal (or zero) fee and the remaining amortization is written down.

We record a higher gain in 2024/2025, when we feel we need it (or can leverage it for more players), and then take the amortization hit in the following fiscal year.

 

[Blue Parkender]

Pretty uninspiring it's another non scoring defensive midfielder.

If Kev feels comfortable dealing with Lyon bust a gut and get Rayan Cherki & George's Mikautadze.
Skill full , strong , quick and know where the net is . Cherki looks class whenever I've seen him and Mikautadze is everything our forwards arnt .Would transform our non entity attacking options.

Get on the blower Kev , Lyon shipping players out Orban gone to Hoffenheim today.

I would have taken Orban, and completely agree on Cherki and Mikautadze.

 

[buededw1]

It’s really not difficult this transfer business malarkey, just sign mbuemo and cunha and everything is sorted. If you want to go technical just get rid of harrison and bring in a world class left back in the maldini mould.

 

[Zatara]

Your option A has the full book price being amortised. Option C has only 1 year being amortised at the point of the loan, and any further years being amortised at the point of sale.

Option C is option b but with the fees switched. It's not as complicated as maybe you're thinking it is.

Yes thats what i first thought, so the option C would mean the buying club needs to pay the FULL amount (in real money) over the course of the initial loan...which i dont think anyone would do.

Timing. For ease of use, let's assume Beto is loaned for 13.5 million and he has 13.5 million left in the amortization of his original fee.

Loaning him for a 13.5 million fee in January 2025 means that we record revenue of 13.5 million in the accounts for 2024/2025, with one year of amortization booked on his original fee.

Then on July 1 2025, when fiscal 2026 starts, he's sold for a nominal (or zero) fee and the remaining amortization is written down.

We record a higher gain in 2024/2025, when we feel we need it (or can leverage it for more players), and then take the amortization hit in the following fiscal year.

This to me seems madness as it may as well just be a straight sale.

As its a 3 year rolling setup AND the rules change this summer.

Could...as ever, be wrong.

 

[pfim]

Yes thats what i first thought, so the option C would mean the buying club needs to pay the FULL amount (in real money) over the course of the initial loan...which i dont think anyone would do.



This to me seems madness as it may as well just be a straight sale.

As its a 3 year rolling setup AND the rules change this summer.

Could...as ever, be wrong.

No, the buying club would not need to pay in real money the original fee over the course of the initial loan. The transaction is booked in 2024/2025, but that does not mean that cash must change hands.

If it's a straight sale, there's no profit in 2024/2025 as you'd have to write down the remainder of his original fee in 2024/2025.

If you do that July 1st (2025/2026), that gives you more flexibility in 2024/2025.

 

[Tipp blue]

I can give them information. He’s scored 2 goals for Everton this season. In 17 appearances. He has no assists.

Dont tell them that they wont want him, tell them he's scored 18 and has 13 assists in 17 games.

 

[Gallaeo]

Hopefully with don`t give them information on his strike rate (apart from the time under Carlo)

“He thrives under Italian coaches”

 

[Zatara]

No, the buying club would not need to pay in real money the original fee over the course of the initial loan. The transaction is booked in 2024/2025, but that does not mean that cash must change hands.

If it's a straight sale, there's no profit in 2024/2025 as you'd have to write down the remainder of his original fee in 2024/2025.

If you do that July 1st (2025/2026), that gives you more flexibility in 2024/2025.

Ahh i see what you mean now regarding the book value and the initial fee for the loan.

Yes, thats rather unique especially with the rule changes next window.

 

[HKContractDave]

Here we go again

 

[blue to the bone]

Can someone else make a joke about we shouldn't tell Atalanta the truth about Dcl because they have no way of finding out stats themselves.
They really are so humorous !