CalBuckeye_Rob
Player Valuation: £1m
Richarlison's real value is drawing attention and fouls. He made DCL better by the danger he presented. Spurs have mostly used him as a striker which is not his game.
But for a team that plays defensive and wants to counter
Having someone throwing himself to the ground and winning free kicks … actually helps the opponent get organised .
He’s good enough for our first team no doubt …
But would I buy him? Nope… and deffo not for what levy would want ….
They guy fleeced us on Delle ffs imagine what he’d do to us for a player that can actually make it onto the pitch
Rooney_Tunes
Player Valuation: £50m
Didn't Moyes say we were in for him?
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
He can play left back, it's just that he's pretty mediocre there, wearas he's a very good right back Joey, if you sign him you play him in his best position otherwise may as well stick with Mykolenko.
I'd be all for signing KWP btw, think he'd suit that wingback role in a 3-4-2-1 and he does provide cover on the left - just wouldn't want him as the every game starter there.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Thing is Moyes has never really been a defensive counter attacking manager, yes sometimes he plays that way but it's not the rule. He's generally pragmatic tactics wise and alters depending on the opposition, if we're home or away etc.
If we just focus on players suited to counter attacking then it'll be a mistake.
I'd have Richy back here in a heartbeat at the right financial deal for us
Said he was one of a few players that the club has been looking at
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
The under 21 option is a horrible way to build mate, yea bring in players to the academy to develop but not signing a load of kids as starters unless they are already exceptional and already playing at a good level in which case they are gonna be in huge demand.
The key she range is 21-24, players who've developed already but still with the potential to improve. You supplement those with some more experienced players who add experience and discipline into the side - professionalism so to speak.
Look at the side Kendall built and it was pretty much spit on along those lines.
We have as of now the following.
Pickford (30), Tarkowski (32), Beto (26), McNeil (25), Mykolenko (25), Harrison (28), Mangala (26)
Branthwaite (22), O'Brien (23), Garner (23), Ndiaye (24), Lindstrom (24), Patterson (23), Broja (23), Iroengbunam (21).
Chermiti (20) Armstrong (18)
Players OOC this summer
DCL (27), Gueye (35), Keane (32), Doucoure (32), Coleman (36), Young (39)
Assuming certain things now just for the purpose of our team next season, say all players I the last year of the deal leave, say all loans leave (besides Lindstrom because he's boss and affordable). And assuming we sell Beto as basically we clearly are.
Then of our side right now 9/11 of the players aged 26 or over will not be here next season - Leaving just Pickford (a keeper so kinda not a normal position she wise to look at) and Tarkowski.
The only players under 26 leaving would be Broja and for arguments same keys say Patterson too as it honestly looks like he will never be favoured and he has done value as a sale still (recouping fees seems a priority for Thelwell).
We'd have
4 players aged over 24 (one the keeper)
8 guys aged 21-24
2 aged below 21
The veteran players would be Pickford, Tarkowski, McNeil and Mykolenko.
Fir me that's lacking in experience and the right type of mentality/grit you need, not enough players who would guide the younger ones and you need that in the side.
We have the balance I'd say about right, but as we clearly need to add between 8-10 players from now until the summer, you need o try to maintain that balance, so you'd want to add 2-3 in the older range, 4-5 in the middle range and 1-2 you get players.
Then it's about getting the right type of older players in, you want ones who are good pros, have the right mentality abd if possible are driven. Get it wrong and you get guys after a last retirement payday, get it right it's a player with a point to prove who can really drive progression on the less experienced players.
Two examples of doing it the wrong way are us and United recently who haven't thought about building a team but just buying individual players with zero thoughts of the whole.
Huge post I know, and yeah we get want us to sign a host of 21yo prospects, but it's be an absolute recipe for disaster in this league - it can work in a weak league for a dominant team like PSV, Ajax etc but not here mate.
So when we are linked with a KWP or Richarlison type the thought needs to not be he's too old etc but rather how does he fit into the idea of building a proper team.
Only possible way of Richarlison coming back here in this window is if Spurs are interested in taking DCL due to the Solanke injury and they give us Richy in a Beto type deal
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Never seemed to me to be a Moyes type signing, he pretty much favoured intelligent players over raw athletes throughout his career, this lad looked the polar opposite - all pace no footy brain.
It's why also I think Doucoure will be one position Moyes looks at bringing in a player to replace him.
Look at the types of players Moyes really loved, Arteta, Pienaar, Osman, Cahill, Carsley, all had a really good footy IQ and none was anything particular outstanding athletic wise.
Even the grock types he had to add a bit if steel, tended to be pretty smart and decent technical players, Felli and Graveson. Plus Felli he actually wanted to buy DeFour instead of memory serves - who was a very very good technical player
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Main issue for me is that Levy is genuinely the type who'd rather see a big money signing leave on a free than sell them at a huge loss, can always blame the player running his contract down that way rather than admit you wasted money and recruited badly by selling cheap.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Yes we clearly are mate.
Guess the question is if he returned would the injury issues lesson with different treatment/training or is he just partially broken now.
DCL these days gives hope to the former, but history recently shows with sports science as developed as it is then a broken player's gonna stay broke...
Days of the likes of the fairytale redemption of Reid and Gray are 40 years ago in a different era
14_dollars
Player Valuation: £10m
11 days left in the window.
About time for a Gnonto bid?
About time for a Gnonto bid?
Ya was saying during the game in the match thread that from todays performance that a Doucoure replacement was now the priority.
Only thing is with Garner and McNeil to come back, Garner could do that role even though I'd rather have him in cm as Gana and Mangala as a pair are slow.
Maybe McNeil back to LW and Ndiaye in the 10 role if Moyes isn't satisfied with the transfer targets this window.
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