Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread

At the time I felt both weren't wise transfers, for this reason;




So I get the logic.

But we're in a totally different situation now, relegation is a threat and our squad depth is paper thin as a direct consequence of no net iunvestment in the team for many years now. It would be one almighty gamble to think we can see this season out.

To cherry pick a few bad signings as justification as to why we shouldn't sign anyone this window is wrong. We have a manager who is telling everyone we need players, and we do. It needs to happen.

Its not an absolute argument though, nor did i say we shouldn't sign anyone, i said we shouldn't sign anyone who doesn't improve us or who doesn't add value beyond this hump for the next 3-5 years.

Id 100% do nothing then bring in a Mauapy, Tosun ________ - insert name at your leisure.

Big picture, i think 28 -32 point keeps you up this season, we're 9 points of that - i see us getting that with what we've got in the squad, i don't think we should bend to the relegation "going down" desperate shouts - so the decision to invest might be the difference between what 16th - 13th, is that mission critical, not enough for me to add players for the sake of it - we've been that solider to often.
 
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I don't think our past is any barrier to our attractiveness as a club for players.

It's where a club is going rather than where it's been that counts.

Our league position is going to discount some players in the short term, as will finances, but no other club can offer such a mix of historic old and shiny new like we can at present.

Things like the new stadium are probably overestimated as an attraction to players - but even so it's certainly not something that going to harm our prospects either in their eyes. It's still a plus point.

I would never think that, other things being equal, we are in any way less of an attraction for players than West Ham.

If we have "rivals" that we might expect to compete with for players, then I'd point to Spurs - they are no better than us and that's irrespective of their current position.

I'd certainly see us as a better destination than maybe 10 of the other 19 clubs.

The new stadium pull will have a minor effect, the major effect of it has every agent knows with that stadium everything financially about the club changes - and that's a big attraction to any agent looking for his clients next move. The profile of the club will also raise due to it which can't be underestimated.

League position is odd, last year the true position was 12th and if we do strengthen this month then that's an achievable target again. Putting us firmly into the mid table club bracket
 
Utter bs anyone saying we can't compete with West ham for players.

They qualified for the EL and ECL about twice/three times won the ECL fair enough the European version of the simod cup though in reality. They only have money due to being subsidised on the stadium which is a horrendous ground as well. They won't be in Europe next year for certain, they have a manager who could be decent but could also just as easily implode under pressure.

They are a media favourite with a media favourite manager, and since when does anyone care really anymore about what the media says.

Potential in Everton is astronomically higher than it is at London's 4th team.
West Ham can risk signing him for £40 million as they have all of their money to spend every year on transfers and wages. We actually have to pay off the debt on our ground so can't take those kind of risks.
 

At the time I felt both weren't wise transfers, for this reason;




So I get the logic.

But we're in a totally different situation now, relegation is a threat and our squad depth is paper thin as a direct consequence of no net iunvestment in the team for many years now. It would be one almighty gamble to think we can see this season out.

To cherry pick a few bad signings as justification as to why we shouldn't sign anyone this window is wrong. We have a manager who is telling everyone we need players, and we do. It needs to happen.

Oh we should right now be spending what we need to guarantee relegation is not even a factor. Who cares about PSR if you go down, who cares about the big summer spend if you're in the championship.

But do so smartly and do so on players that can push the club on and be built around. Not on short term stop gaps to get us through the tear and who we'll be saddled with because they are bottom half players good enough to see you over the line but never push you on.

PSR can be worked around before the 30th June, cutting into any Summer spend may just motivate the owners to bs k the club with additional backing anyways - especially if the recruitment in January goes well.

If they went out and say bought Ferguson, Mcatee and Diarra/Chucky - yeah you are looking at anything from a 75-100m outlay, but you are gonna instantly improve the squad in three starting positions and with ones that have longevity and real potential.

We won't do so, and that's half the problem, we don't take calculated chances for the possibility to really improve. We'd much rather buy a Longstaff for 15-20m buy a replacement line for like 2-3 years later for the same etc.
 

And your left with a big steamy jobbie of a contract liability of 100k plus a week contract, when you don't want him for the other 3 years.

No thanks.

We need the learn the lessons of the past.
In 2 or 3 years time we could be saying "we shouldn't have ploughed on with Beto as our only fit striker" We need to not let inaction become a lesson.
 
First signings of new ownership set the precedent as well - if we overpay for average older players good luck come summer changing the narrative. Need off the bat to show we are willing to bring in younger players to give them the games they want to develop
 
In 2 or 3 years time we could be saying "we shouldn't have ploughed on with Beto as our only fit striker" We need to not let inaction become a lesson.

Again, its not an absolute argument, im not saying we shouldn't bring anyone in, what im saying is we should bring no one in unless its an improvement on what we have and will add value for the next 3-5 years. 100%.

You have to look at our goal as competing with Villa, WHU, Brighton - from this point forward, we should bring players in accordingly in my opinion with that goal in mind.

We got CL with Marcus Bent, im happy enough with Beto, there comes a time where you have to front with the decisions you've made. Its not like our strikers score many goals so if one is out, its not like there is a major drop off. Beto and DCL have an interesting goal per min comparison ratio anyway.

Beto will break his heart trying and im alright with that.
 
And you're left with a big steaming jobbie of a contract liability of 100k plus a week when you don't want him for the other 3 years.

No thanks.

We need the learn the lessons of the past.
Got tbh I agree with what you are saying on this, I know we all want new faces in the building but they have to be the right ones. This is how I view the Ferguson thing, I can fully appreciate the talent/potential that might be there but there is more than a hint of the Dele Alli about the whole thing and any transfer is going to cost us big. It could end up being a game changer but knowing our luck....yeah, lessons of the past like you say mate.
 

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