Everton play like 'Stoke'

[pfim]

You make more money depending on the supposed 'Glamour' of your club as sponsors and the like are more likely to want to be associated to your 'brand'.

Thats how it's meant to work anyway.

How much "Glam Factor" would we get if Moyes changed his name to "Cruyff?" I reckon we'd see an increase of at least 150 basis points, solving our financial woes.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

No mate, you're wrong...you're very wrong. Rodgers said it on the final whistle; Gerrard has brought it back to the fore yesterday; today they have local and national media debating the subject.

It was co-ordinated as a wind up and as a way of deflecting attention from just how utterly clueless and wreckless they are. As far as I can make out we've just sat back and let it wash over us. Only Snodin in the Echo has come back with something and he isn't employed by the club and what he said was just to refute the allegation of a long ball game.

Call it tit-for-tat that we shouldn't get into if you like, but our response should have been swift on Sunday night: brief the media that we'd been kicked off the park by the opposition, some of who's members were clearly out of control and wound up. That'd have buried this long ball stuff.

If you're right then I think it's back fired on them mate. As it's created a focus on the stats & the stats clearly show that we out passed them, created more than them, had more possession & played less long balls as a % age of total poss. Which in turn has raised questions about the tiki taka 'system' & how it's been outplayed by a supposed long ball side akin to Stoke. It's a massive OG if intended.

I'm happy with our dignified silence tbh, let them stew in their own piss.

 

[tsubaki]

Call it tit-for-tat that we shouldn't get into if you like, but our response should have been swift on Sunday night: brief the media that we'd been kicked off the park by the opposition, some of who's members were clearly out of control and wound up. That'd have buried this long ball stuff.

Not really - as paulbefc said, not engaging with Gerrard's ****e was exactly the right thing to do because everyone has seen it for what it is. Its like when you find some mad bloke ranting in the street about how the lizard people stole his cats and milk - you dont engage him in a debate.

 

[Julio Ananas]

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/everton/id/180?cc=5739#


JULIO SORRY IF ALREADY POSTED:


ESPN: "If Steven Gerrard's shooting this season is as wild as his accusations, Liverpool could be in trouble
"An idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality."

That is The Oxford English dictionary definition of the word 'delusional'. As there is a multitude of evidence to the contrary, the post-derby thoughts of Brendan Rodgers and Steven Gerrard fall firmly into that definition. Labelling Everton a "long-ball side" is both disrespectful and incorrect. "

 

[steken1]

How much "Glam Factor" would we get if Moyes changed his name to "Cruyff?" I reckon we'd see an increase of at least 150 basis points, solving our financial woes.

Cruyffs his middle name anyway mate. Didn't you see him play?

And we haven't got any financial woes, Bill said.

 

[evertonian6]

im honeslty glad he's come and said this, its comments like that and mancini's about rodwell playing for a club who aim to win, that really get the players fired up for the game. moyes clearly can't do it in derby games and it took suarez' celebration to motivate the lads. would absolutely love us to beat them at anfield this season, more than ever.

 

[pablo 1878]

From the Soccernet link above

So, while Steven Gerrard claims that Everton are a long-ball side, let us remember this man once compared Joe Cole to Lionel Messi.

Another Gerrard claim was that "there was only one team who came into the derby trying to play football". For once, I have to agree with him, though looking at the statistics, it is clear that the team in question was Everton, not Liverpool.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Liverpool FC - the gift that keeps on giving

 

[phil2801]

Thats what happens when your mind is diluted and you leave school at 16 and your name is Steven Gerrard

 

[pfim]

If you were trying to play the way Liverpool are, and were completely stymied by one man (Fellaini), I guess I'd probably make excuses and tell stories as well.

 

[paulbefc]

Christ. Gerrard's really taking a kicking in the media for this.

KONSPIRACEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

 

[thebluefox]

just hope geoff stelling brings this up on soccer saturday,

 

[bluejock]

just hope geoff stelling brings this up on soccer saturday,

Imagine Pinocchio's face as Stelling, Merson, Le Tissier and Nicholas get ripped right into him.

 

[davek]

If you're right then I think it's back fired on them mate. As it's created a focus on the stats & the stats clearly show that we out passed them, created more than them, had more possession & played less long balls as a % age of total poss. Which in turn has raised questions about the tiki taka 'system' & how it's been outplayed by a supposed long ball side akin to Stoke. It's a massive OG if intended.

I'm happy with our dignified silence tbh, let them stew in their own piss.

Not really - as paulbefc said, not engaging with Gerrard's ****e was exactly the right thing to do because everyone has seen it for what it is. Its like when you find some mad bloke ranting in the street about how the lizard people stole his cats and milk - you dont engage him in a debate.

Maybe, maybe not. The long ball tag, though, is one we're sensitive of (and susceptible to given the way it was deployed in the past). They knew that and went for the big propaganda hit.

My ultimate point is this though: we should have been on the front foot post match - especially given what those snides have done in the recent past, with their post Derby comments about small clubs etc - and Moyes needed to say right up front that the game for us was taken away because they were looking to injur our players and succeeded in that. That was no less than the truth, but Moyes got caught up in defending himself over his pre match diving comments and only as an afterthought mentioned the Suarez incident with Distin. They seized the initiative after that and now we are where we are hoping/speculating that others dont buy their deflecting tactics. It should never have come down to this.

 

[peteblue]

Maybe, maybe not. The long ball tag, though, is one we're sensitive of (and susceptible to given the way it was deployed in the past). They knew that and went for the big propaganda hit.

My ultimate point is this though: we should have been on the front foot post match - especially given what those snides have done in the recent past, with their post Derby comments about small clubs etc - and Moyes needed to say right up front that the game for us was taken away because they were looking to injur our players and succeeded in that. That was no less than the truth, but Moyes got caught up in defending himself over his pre match diving comments and only as an afterthought mentioned the Suarez incident with Distin. They seized the initiative after that and now we are where we are hoping/speculating that others dont buy their deflecting tactics. It should never have come down to this.

Moyes couldn't really say anything because Nev let him down with the dive. However DM's comments about Suarez scored a hit because the diving little rat didn't attempt to dive, he did the rest of his snide tricks but didn't dive. This will make other managers point it out before games and the refs will keep the pressure on him. This one time DM's dignified silence has actually worked for us because everyone else has picked it up and thrown it back at Gerrard, but that won't always be the case......

 

[Tubey]

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/everton/id/180?cc=5739#


JULIO SORRY IF ALREADY POSTED:


ESPN: "If Steven Gerrard's shooting this season is as wild as his accusations, Liverpool could be in trouble
"An idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality."

That is The Oxford English dictionary definition of the word 'delusional'. As there is a multitude of evidence to the contrary, the post-derby thoughts of Brendan Rodgers and Steven Gerrard fall firmly into that definition. Labelling Everton a "long-ball side" is both disrespectful and incorrect. "

I think that's my favourite article about them ever.