Everton play like 'Stoke'

[ScouseBlueBoy]

Stevie Starfish and the Affables are proving that the Spirit oF Heysel lives on.

 

[paulbefc]

I said to you after the game on Sunday that we needed Moyes to manage the post match narrative or Liverpool would. And they have. They know how to claim a match and use it to their own advantage; Moyes unforgivably bent over for them by not only failing to place the counter narrative that we were booted off the park and not allowed to play, but also by conceding on issues like Suarez's dive and their 'third goal'. You said it doesn't matter. It does.

Moyes hasn't got a ****ing clue how to handle these fixtures. Not one clue. On and off the pitch he's leading us like lambs to the slaughter every time.

I don't want to sound like I'm having a go here, mate, but have you even read the papers? They're not dictating jack sh*t bar their own continued fall from "grace" in the public's eye. The papers are openly discrediting everything they've come out with. Steven Gerrard comes over, to the rest of the world, like a complete no-mark in every paper thanks to the Stoke comments. The fact that the stats suggest the absolute opposite of what he claimed suggests firstly, that not we, but THEY are the dirty hoofball side on merseyside, secondly that Gerrard is a bitter, angry gobsh*te with no class and thirdly, that Rodgers' whole philosophy that he has been championing since day one is the utter bullshine we all knew it to be. The world is seeing the light, Dave.

Now look at the other side of the coin at us and the fact that Gerrard's comments have the opposite desired effect and full on emphasise the fact that we are NOT like Stoke, we were the better side and we do NOT run our mouths like angry children in the press when we get a bad decision against us. We come out of this with at worst our rep intact, whereas they have shattered the illusion that they are a good passing side by chatting complete sh*t in the media. The attention today is on how bitter and twisted they are and most importantly, how they were outplayed on Sunday. Thanks Steven. Why would we waste our time talking about how much of a gobsh*te Stevie is when the media are doing it for us. You've seen the comments under the articles, no one's fallen for it. Why would we distract everyone from their self-inflicted embarrassment by sinking to their level in childish slanging matches. Just keep schtum and watch them FROTH.

I know you want them humiliated and so do I mate, so do I, but honestly, leave them to it, they do it beautifully by themselves. The racism saga should have taught everyone that. David Moyes has played a blinder, imo: "It was a goal", beautifully popcorned them there. "I would have done it" (on Suarez' celebration) is NOT what they wanted to hear at all and finally, he sits back with a family size packet of butterkist and watches them talk up our side for us, emphasise the fact that we are the more mature club and also write our team talks for Saturday and the derby thrown in for the bargain.

 

[Jacko93]

It's bull**** what he and Rodgers are saying but it's the message that's dominating the proceedings now.

I say again: it is important to explain to the media your view of the game. If you dont get your own message out then you'll be stuck with the description the opposition give you. Moyes should have gone in front of those cameras furious telling them we weren't allowed to play because they were determined to assault our players. He should have underlined it by reference to outr players with severe bruising and one leaving the ground on crutches. The feller's a complete ****ing divvy when it comes to this fixture. They've won the post match stuff hands down. That Rodgers **** has been in the job two minutes and he's already up to speed about how you get into the heads of the opposition in a Derby. Imagine Joe Royle with this fcuker...he'd have torn the phoney a new arse after that game.

I kinda get where your going with this, but I disagree in this particular instance, sometimes its better to rent out the spade than start the hole. The RS are being led to look like fools at the moment, all led by their very own captain fantastic. Personally, I felt that the way Moyes has handled it has been great. He nipped the dive right in the bud, took a quick swipe at Ted Rodgers by saying he'll have a word, and thats how all managers should deal with it, and called it honestly. Nothing from what Moyes has said is being called tripe, whereas everything they have said, is. Moyes has come out of this looking like the manager who is comfortable in our position, they look like they are trying to get out of a hole. They are struggling, and the last people you want to smell blood, is the media.

 

[Beagers]

They think we're nasty and yet they kill people and brick waiters?

lol.

Storm down gates and rob tickets off their own in Athens 2007.

 

[paulbefc]

I kinda get where your going with this, but I disagree in this particular instance, sometimes its better to rent out the spade than start the hole. The RS are being led to look like fools at the moment, all led by their very own captain fantastic. Personally, I felt that the way Moyes has handled it has been great. He nipped the dive right in the bud, took a quick swipe at Ted Rodgers by saying he'll have a word, and thats how all managers should deal with it, and called it honestly. Nothing from what Moyes has said is being called tripe, whereas everything they have said, is. Moyes has come out of this looking like the manager who is comfortable in our position, they look like they are trying to get out of a hole. They are struggling, and the last people you want to smell blood, is the media.

This as well. I know I'm really pro-Moyes but he's played this to utter perfection, imo. The fact that Moyes and Neville have expressed regret openly means the public won't remember it like they do Suarez' behaviour and all that's left for them to think when Gerrard brings it up is: Hang on, that's a bit rich coming from you, isn't it? Reinforces the fact that Gerrard is a hypocrite and a diver in everyone's eyes.

 

[Jacko93]

I understand that Gerrard's remarks are being framed as untruths by the bulk of the media, but that's not how it works in terms of determining what went on. Ask anyone with a passing interest in football now what went on in the game on Sunday and the only thing they're hearing in the background noise are the words: EVERTON LONG BALL...and that mud will stick beyond that game. We needed to muddy the waters by countering so that the words LIVERPOOL ASSAULTED EVERTON are uppermost in neutral's minds.

They know how to play this game and Moyes is leaden-footed on how it all works. For the benefit of the fans he should have been a lot cuter than what he was post match. Just saying Suarez left his foot in on one challenge wasn't enough. A big soundbite was called for.

I disagree entirely now. Basically, I feel that what you are saying is actually the exact opposite of what we should do. We are playing well, teams already aren't relishing playing us, last thing we want to do is say, actually, Liverpool got a point because they kicked **** out of us. Teams will try to kick **** out of us to get a point aswell. We have a small enough squad as it is. If we had of won, then yes say that all you want, as then you would be saying, we beat them despite them TRYING to kick **** out of us. As it is, let them do their own damage.

 

[Deano]

The stats for those asking relating to Gerrard's comments for long balls in the derby; Everton 14%, Liverpool 17%

 

[sbbefc]

Lol, our pitch dimensions are pretty much exactly the same as theirs.

 

[sbbefc]

"Everton have played nasty football for AGES. Surprised it took this long for someone to point it out. They have a nasty little manager, play on a nasty, tight little pitch and their first instinct is ALWAYS to stop the other team playing. Ugh."

Lol, our pitch dimensions are pretty much exactly the same as theirs.

 

[pfim]

Stevie just can't handle that Fellaini owned Allen for most of the match and they had to resort to taking out players (Suarez vs Mirallas) to maintain their point.

Laughably incorrect. What a loser. Worry about your own house.

 

[tsubaki]

That he is clearly fuming about this causes me no end of mirth.

 

[harry]

Lets be honest he doesn't come across as being very bright. its a good job for him he can kick a ball.

 

[ah11984]

"Subtle" comment from a Liverpool fan on the BBC article... don't ask how i guessed.

'as a mutd fan i could not agree with gerrard more, i watched the game and neverton just wanted to hit fellani every single time. liverpool played some great football and i can see them getting top4 on that evidence. + i dont know how we beat chelsea lucky we always have the refs on our side i guess'

 

[peteblue]

"Subtle" comment from a Liverpool fan on the BBC article... don't ask how i guessed.

'as a mutd fan i could not agree with gerrard more, i watched the game and neverton just wanted to hit fellani every single time. liverpool played some great football and i can see them getting top4 on that evidence. + i dont know how we beat chelsea lucky we always have the refs on our side i guess'

Hahahahahahahahahaha........brilliant subterfuge........hahahahahahahahahaha

 

[peteblue]

I don't want to sound like I'm having a go here, mate, but have you even read the papers? They're not dictating jack sh*t bar their own continued fall from "grace" in the public's eye. The papers are openly discrediting everything they've come out with. Steven Gerrard comes over, to the rest of the world, like a complete no-mark in every paper thanks to the Stoke comments. The fact that the stats suggest the absolute opposite of what he claimed suggests firstly, that not we, but THEY are the dirty hoofball side on merseyside, secondly that Gerrard is a bitter, angry gobsh*te with no class and thirdly, that Rodgers' whole philosophy that he has been championing since day one is the utter bullshine we all knew it to be. The world is seeing the light, Dave.

Now look at the other side of the coin at us and the fact that Gerrard's comments have the opposite desired effect and full on emphasise the fact that we are NOT like Stoke, we were the better side and we do NOT run our mouths like angry children in the press when we get a bad decision against us. We come out of this with at worst our rep intact, whereas they have shattered the illusion that they are a good passing side by chatting complete sh*t in the media. The attention today is on how bitter and twisted they are and most importantly, how they were outplayed on Sunday. Thanks Steven. Why would we waste our time talking about how much of a gobsh*te Stevie is when the media are doing it for us. You've seen the comments under the articles, no one's fallen for it. Why would we distract everyone from their self-inflicted embarrassment by sinking to their level in childish slanging matches. Just keep schtum and watch them FROTH.

I know you want them humiliated and so do I mate, so do I, but honestly, leave them to it, they do it beautifully by themselves. The racism saga should have taught everyone that. David Moyes has played a blinder, imo: "It was a goal", beautifully popcorned them there. "I would have done it" (on Suarez' celebration) is NOT what they wanted to hear at all and finally, he sits back with a family size packet of butterkist and watches them talk up our side for us, emphasise the fact that we are the more mature club and also write our team talks for Saturday and the derby thrown in for the bargain.

Nailed it.......