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Everton reopen talks with Sam Allardyce

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After sleeping on it, I still can’t come to terms with this fiasco.

Perhaps, therefore, if I offer the club Sam’s full repertoire as follows, we can save ourselves in the first instance, the indignity of having to employ him, and, in the process, a few million quid to boot.

So here goes, and this is for free:

1. Work together as a unit. Try and stay awake.

2. Nominated CH holds the line, slightly proud of the defence. He talks; the rest of you listen.

3. When drawn to the flanks, the others move across to cover.

4. Don’t get too high up the pitch; you’ll be found wanting on the break. Especially you lot.

5. Don’t ball watch. Anticipate. Don’t try and chase down the player on the break: ‘cut off the corner’.

6. Dead ball situations e.g. corners: full backs cover the posts. Stay within spitting distance of your respective CH: If the ball goes over his head you’ll be there to make the header. Bainsey: take note, son.

7.Talking of headers, CHs make sure that defensive headers are high and wide. Don’t just head it back to them.

8. Don’t get in the way of your keeper, and keepers be decisive and take ownership in a crowded box.

9. When in doubt, kick it out. And I mean into Stanley Park. Your not good enough to fanny about.

10. Full backs: Always show them the outside. This’ll knacker up tacticians who like to play right footers on the left wing and vice versa. Holgate and Pennington especially, listen and learn kids. Try and stay on your feet and marshall rather than dive in. Times have changed since my chopping playing days. However, if push comes to shove, take one for the team.

11. Shots on goal by them: stand firm and face them. No cowards please. A ball in the goolies is unpleasant but remember you’re being payed a fortune for the privilege.

12. Don’t bother with the midfield: just hoof it long to the big fella.

Finally, placing a reassuring arm around Kevin and pulling him close he utters those immortal words: ‘ oh, and if I ask you to partake in a training session but you decide to go off and play the cross-bar challenge instead with ol’ square ‘ead over there, I’ll [poor language removed] chin ya! “

Now please we can we have somebody of merit?
 
...it’s a mess, Ste, and it’s a mess of their own doing. I know history points to short-termism being the road to disaster. I know history suggest clubs who appoint Allardyce slip into ruin after he leaves. Unfortunately, the club are having to think short-term because they have no wiggle room to wait for preferred targets. We are where we are.

I hope we are a little different than the clubs Allardyce has previously got out of jail, though. The Boardroom shenanigans might see us fall away, but the club are potentially looking upwards from an infrastructure perspective. The likes of Sunderland had a hand to mouth existence. I think our status is different. We are in a dreadful place but I do think there’s hope.

A club that HAS to think short term entirely because of their own decisions made - sorry mate, but those clubs NEVER turn things around because they have already shown themselves to be able to create a mess out of nothing already.

we have a HUGE mess - one mainly created by terrible recruitment decisions, and we are now going to hire the manager and assistant manager who the person primarily responsible for those recruitment decisions chose as the number one target for us.

The club doesn't 'have' to think short term btw, it has chosen to think short term, otherwise every team that struggles would always go for that type of manager, and some definitely don't and shock horror they actually manage to survive still, we as fans have been fed a media diet of NEEDING a FAt Sam type, and a huge percentage have swallowed it up as the only option, and thats the saddest part, because for me anyway, it means that whatever the media want this club to be - it will ultimately be that, Kenwright isn't going anywhere because IF the media can get us to accept this grotesque as our manager - it is going to find it simple to get us backing Blue Bill
 
...it’s a mess, Ste, and it’s a mess of their own doing. I know history points to short-termism being the road to disaster. I know history suggest clubs who appoint Allardyce slip into ruin after he leaves. Unfortunately, the club are having to think short-term because they have no wiggle room to wait for preferred targets. We are where we are.

I hope we are a little different than the clubs Allardyce has previously got out of jail, though. The Boardroom shenanigans might see us fall away, but the club are potentially looking upwards from an infrastructure perspective. The likes of Sunderland had a hand to mouth existence. I think our status is different. We are in a dreadful place but I do think there’s hope.

I'd also say that i would bet some fans of every club he managed thought exactly the same about them being different to the rest mate, sadly history doesn't show that to be the case for them, it won't do for us either.
 

Allardyce or Unsworth aren't (or shouldn't) be the only two choices here.

I don't see the point of staying up if you're just content to stay up. That's what Allardyce represents - all ethics, dignity and ambition out the window to tread water and desperately stay at the Premier League dinner table.

Everton are giving a job to this mess. Just let that sink in and consider the bigger picture. It's a disaster.

Do we have a choice?

Silva isn't coming. Dyche? Allardyce-lite without the bungs.

Anyone else is a huge gamble taking charge of the worst side in the league right now.
 
This won't be a popular opinion but here goes anyway. I believe allardyce may be a good appointment for us.

He will fix the defence first and foremost which is job number one. Make us hard to beat at a time when it's not even a challenge to beat us. So fantastic, less goals conceded.

Now going forward he does have some great young talent There in sandro klassen davies vlasic and lookman. So you would think that he would utilise them more effectively than koeman and unsworth did to form a competent attack of sorts. Allardyce has played some good stuff when hebwas had talent available, it's when he didn't (relegation battle jobs) that he played basic football.

One of his strengths as well is set pieces. We have one of the best set piece takers in the league in siggurdson there. So again if he can utilise the team correctly that could turn out to be fantastic for us.

Older players will listen to him at a time when we need them to. Rooney will be used better than he has been as well so me may see the player we hoped was signing for us in him.

So Yeah, as much as it's all doom and gloom to some fans, I believe optimistically that it may not be a disaster for us, and at least mid table this season could well be realistic for a manager who fire fights most years with lesser clubs
 
After sleeping on it, I still can’t come to terms with this fiasco.

Perhaps, therefore, if I offer the club Sam’s full repertoire as follows, we can save ourselves in the first instance, the indignity of having to employ him, and, in the process, a few million quid to boot.

So here goes, and this is for free:

1. Work together as a unit. Try and stay awake.

2. Nominated CH holds the line, slightly proud of the defence. He talks; the rest of you listen.

3. When drawn to the flanks, the others move across to cover.

4. Don’t get too high up the pitch; you’ll be found wanting on the break. Especially you lot.

5. Don’t ball watch. Anticipate. Don’t try and chase down the player on the break: ‘cut off the corner’.

6. Dead ball situations e.g. corners: full backs cover the posts. Stay within spitting distance of your respective CH: If the ball goes over his head you’ll be there to make the header. Bainsey: take note, son.

7.Talking of headers, CHs make sure that defensive headers are high and wide. Don’t just head it back to them.

8. Don’t get in the way of your keeper, and keepers be decisive and take ownership in a crowded box.

9. When in doubt, kick it out. And I mean into Stanley Park. Your not good enough to fanny about.

10. Full backs: Always show them the outside. This’ll knacker up tacticians who like to play right footers on the left wing and vice versa. Holgate and Pennington especially, listen and learn kids. Try and stay on your feet and marshall rather than dive in. Times have changed since my chopping playing days. However, if push comes to shove, take one for the team.

11. Shots on goal by them: stand firm and face them. No cowards please. A ball in the goolies is unpleasant but remember you’re being payed a fortune for the privilege.

12. Don’t bother with the midfield: just hoof it long to the big fella.

Finally, placing a reassuring arm around Kevin and pulling him close he utters those immortal words: ‘ oh, and if I ask you to partake in a training session but you decide to go off and play the cross-bar challenge instead with ol’ square ‘ead over there, I’ll [poor language removed] chin ya! “

Now please we can we have somebody of merit?

No we can't, not until we've secured our Premier League status which is ever increasingly unlikely with every passing week.
 
We are having Big Sam as our manager because its what we deserve and need to bring our aspirations back to being grounded

Last summer was the start of the transformation that has made the football gods punish us. You all remember last summer " Billionaires lad, we will buy anyone "
All the people praising Steve Walsh as the best DOF " He discovered Zola and Drogba, yeah lad "

Acting like the Chelsea fans when they came after Stones " Yes, that ( random player ) needs to put in a transfer request to force a move here "

The ignorance of Rom's and Roscoe's talent " Yeah, the stats say even without Rom's goals we would have still finished 7th lad "

The praise of Unsworth and offering him the job straight away due to his first press conference " Yeah lad, he gets us and won the under 23's. Just give him the job you could see the passion in that conference "

If you want someone to blame for the arrival of Sam, take a look in the mirror.
 

People need to stop deluding themselves with this "sleeping giant is awakening" thing from the summer. Ronald Koeman and Steve Walsh between them have seen off any "project" or long term building that might have been going on. People won't want to accept it, but we are very, very poor right now, and one thing undeniably more disastrous than appointing this meme as manager, would be heading to the Championship with a load of brand new players on massive contracts and a stadium move hanging in the balance.

I've always said, if Unsworth had won a few more games and we were further up the table, Big Sam shouldn't be an option.

Sadly that's not been the case. Then you look at what we've bought, then look at the squad, then look at the performances.

If no one's panicking and think champions league managers, championship unknowns, foreign one season wonders, or anyone that isn't Allardyce is gonna come, think again.
 
Do we have a choice?

Silva isn't coming. Dyche? Allardyce-lite without the bungs.

Anyone else is a huge gamble taking charge of the worst side in the league right now.

Do we have a choice between throwing our morals and ethics away and... not doing that?

Yes, yes we do.

We're in a relegation fight, yes, but not so desperate as to throw our entire identity down the drain for a proven crook. I'd rather take the risk with a more unknown manager. I still don't believe we'll go down whoever we have as manager - even Unsworth - the fact we're not even in the relegation zone and one win off 12th despite being unimaginably bad shows the state of this league; it's not panic stations yet to the point where Sam bloody Allardyce should be an option.
 
Only want to think positively going forward because the last 6 months have been such a clusterfu..shambles that it’s the only way I can engage with us again.

People need to accept that we really are bad enough to go down, we badly need help, and advocating relegation above Allardyce based on moral high ground doesn’t interest me one bit. We’re rich enough to make this a short term fix and come out the other side okay.
 

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