Everton "special" Talksport 9:00pm Monday 10th Aug 2015

[Tubey]

Lads it makes me wonder. Why now to start? What were we doing the past 20 years?

We are passive as a fan base. We view anything OTT as Kopite basically - like flag waving and marches.

And to be honest, in a way... I'm glad about that.

Thing is though, there has to be a line where a broadly sensible fan base like ours basically say enough is enough. The only thing that could rile us up in my view is if a large amount of fans felt they were getting the pee taken out of them by the board, and that is exactly the case IMO.

I think we have a board that shut up shop a long time ago and hoped to get away with minimal investment for a long time for the big return, or a constant trickle of profit. And sorry, as tinfoil hat as this sounds, I honestly believe something very dodgy is going on behind the scenes too. The lack of investment can be explained away largely by the board just doing enough to keep us at a certain level, but those accounts have looked fishy to me for a long time just from a common sense perspective.

Unless we're spending £10 a toilet roll something is wrong.

 

[sd_1992]

Bah just getting into my stride and I got cut off.

Sorry lads

I was Paul by the way (still am lol)

It was refreshing someone actually taking the time on there to make a well reasoned point. Well done.

 

[Tubey]

The Blue Union - a fans group that wants change but too scared to point out exactly why change is needed and who's at fault....when the fk did scousers become so docile ?

They got burnt long ago by the release of the Kenwright tapes which basically made them a non-entity. They should have disbanded a long time ago.

 

[Bilko]

Don't want to beat the drum too much, but last post from me - wasn't it telling that the three worst calls included two of the pressure groups?

that's true,and they, in all honesty,were awful. the esk was great,the last lad was actually very good also,but the knock out blow went to Stan Collymore when asked why he wouldn't sign for Everton if he was a young footballer ,"Ambition".

 

[bourneblue]

Did any one ask Stan if he went dogging with Ulrika ?

 

[Stutheblue]

By and large people aren't saying we're not in a better position than when BK first took over. Having, relatively speaking, steadied the ship (debt wise) given the vast sums of TV money in very recent season, whats the way forward. If you ain't got the means or commercial acumen get someone who has. We can't afford to stagnate for 2 or 3 more years because we'll end up in the same place as we where when BK came on board. You snooze you lose in this game. He must know that. In Moyes last season and RM"s first we had a very good team in a poor stadium with a great fan base. Two out of three ain't bad and was a selling point. The boat was missed. The team ain't as good now, the stadium is poor, and the fan base is restless, very restless.

 

[BluePeadar]

That was brilliant.
I might be biased but our fans speak really well compared to other supporters.
and @the esk was class personified.

I whinge a lot but am proud of our club tonight purely because our fans come across so well and knowledgable evenan the one I didn't agree with spoke well.
So good to hear a debate about Everton on the airwaves.

Unfortunately normal service on TalkTop5 Radio now with Jason Cundy sounding like my thick 7 year old nephew (pukes in own mouth)

 

[The Equaliser]

Bah just getting into my stride and I got cut off.

Sorry lads

I was Paul by the way (still am lol)

You got your basic point across about the 3 options which was the main thing.

 

[ham2]

It is great to have a national radio station almost dedicate an hour to our situation, but now the programme has finished, what will happen? Stan had this exact same thing on a show about two years ago but here we still are, no further forward with no answers to any of our questions.

I would love to believe this will kick start a revolution as such but the 'Everton fan' in me knows nothing will change sadly.

 

[Chang Elephant]

They got burnt long ago by the release of the Kenwright tapes which basically made them a non-entity. They should have disbanded a long time ago.

IMO the tape release was exactly the right thing to do, it went for the throat and was aggressive, and showed the entity masquerading as a chairman was in fact a chancer. Then they took their foot off the pressure for no good reason when Moyes kept achieving respectable finishes.

 

[Tubey]

IMO the tape release was exactly the right thing to do, it went for the throat and was aggressive, and showed the entity masquerading as a chairman was in fact a chancer. Then they took their foot off the pressure for no good reason when Moyes kept achieving respectable finishes.

No it really wasn't mate. A rational head there should have advised against it, carried on building the dialogue, making their case through editorials - and then when inaction from the board occurred or they shied away again, they can say that dialogue failed, they've been respectful to the clubs' wishes throughout all group discussions and acquiesced to privacy rules etc.

It would have made them the 'bigger man' in it and gave gravitas to their grievance.

Instead, it just showed petulance and basically threw any relevance they had straight out the window.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Bah just getting into my stride and I got cut off.

Sorry lads

I was Paul by the way (still am lol)

Excellent points, delivered in a clear and concise fashion.

 

[blue61]

The Blue Union - a fans group that wants change but too scared to point out exactly why change is needed and who's at fault....when the fk did scousers become so docile ?

The fan base in general have been worn down to expect mediocrity, and are rarely disappointed. It's a terrible state of affairs. The word that cropped up the most for me was 'transparency'. Some of this would go some way to appease many fans.

 

[SerenityNigh]

I'm having a guess from how he talked that he runs his own business, is probably a millionaire and is not unfamiliar with analysis and decision making based on logic in business.

Correct @the esk ?

That's what these pressure groups lack - they're just a bunch of fellas from down the pub with no nous.

I thought they had all the answers?

 

[Tubey]

I thought they had all the answers?

It depends if the questions included such things as "how much is a pint of Fosters?" really. If so, I'm sure they did.