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Everton Summer Transfer Thread - 2022

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T LEAFE said:
If we stay up next season it will be another miracle
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If u don't sign a few players I think it will be tough but I still don't see u going down, I would think 13th to 17th place. However, a DM, a CM and a striker and prospects will look a lot better. When Frank was at Derby I saw a lot of their games as Villa were in the Chumps League then too, he is very good with young players and can really get them playing well. Then at Chelsea, he had the transfer embargo and again had to rely on the youth and did a brilliant job to get Chelsea into the Champions League. When he starting spending big money on 'proven' players things went south. I think the way forward for Everton and Frank is young players, the kind of ones that will probably disappoint fans when they are signed as they are not a proven name, but by the end of the season they will probably excite most fans as the future will look very bright. To me anyway, they are the sort of players that Frank excels with.
 

T LEAFE said:
If we stay up next season it will be another miracle
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Will have to see how the promoted teams do first. My hunch is Forest and Fulham will both stay up (Bournemouth will comfortably be 20th) but obviously could be wrong on both. Then you have Leeds losing two huge players which is always a struggle for bottom half team and Southampton ended last season in terrible form so they'll be in bottom six this season.

My tip to "do an Everton" is Wolves btw. Real lack of goalscoring threat end of last season and while their defence remains solid picking up Nathan Collins their attack isn't much these days.

So bit OTT to say relegation is inevitable....just as it was from March onwards last season (although I did waver after losing at Burnley).

Think bigger issue for me is how much of a gulf even finishing 10th nowadays looks. Newcastle and Villa both finished bottom half but been signing more good players to improve first 11. Leicester didn't have a great season but still finished 8th and that was combined with european SF. West Ham also got to SF and should've finished top 6 again.

Perhaps one of Brighton/Palace will drop down a bit but both have stable models that can withstand losing key players. More likely is Brentford having that difficult second season especially without Eriksen pulling the strings.

Think getting even up to 12th is an ask as that requires a consistent replacement for Richi who won't be there anymore to fill in at CF aswell if Calvert Lewin gets more injuries. And some more quality in CM.

Lots of work to do in next six weeks. The closer to the season and it has feel of quantity over quality. Can see some panic signings on August 31st if team only wins one of first five games.
 
Villa_Fan said:
If u don't sign a few players I think it will be tough but I still don't see u going down, I would think 13th to 17th place. However, a DM, a CM and a striker and prospects will look a lot better. When Frank was at Derby I saw a lot of their games as Villa were in the Chumps League then too, he is very good with young players and can really get them playing well. Then at Chelsea, he had the transfer embargo and again had to rely on the youth and did a brilliant job to get Chelsea into the Champions League. When he starting spending big money on 'proven' players things went south. I think the way forward for Everton and Frank is young players, the kind of ones that will probably disappoint fans when they are signed as they are not a proven name, but by the end of the season they will probably excite most fans as the future will look very bright. To me anyway, they are the sort of players that Frank excels with.
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I agree with most of your point; 13th/14th will probably be about right. As for Derby, didn't he have a couple of the Chelsea kids with him there? They'd have probably been the best players at the club.

As for Chelsea, I'd imagine almost any manager could get top 4 with the talent they have at their disposal (was it 3rd Sarri got with them if I recall and a Europa win), and I'd be very surprised if it was Frank behind most/all of that +£200m spending. That seemed like the club buying players in the longterm interests of the club, not so much the caretaker who currently happened to occupy the managers seat.

He'll have to work with what he's got here. We can't recruit like Chelsea can.
 

Villa_Fan said:
I never once said Villa were miles better. All I have said is that I think Everton will struggle next season unless they sign a few players, which appears to be a fairly widely held view on this forum. Regarding the average of the last 2 seasons Everton 49 ( 39 & 59) pts and Villa 50 (45 & 55), so only a point in it in Villa's favour.
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I dont mean to be pedantic, but you got 51 the season before last didnt you?

Anyway, I think Villa are ahead but not miles so.
 

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