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Everton Summer transfers 2021

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BlueToff said:
Wouldn't say he was awful. Definitely didn't live up to the billing and his confidence got knocked.

I'd rather have him playing wide than Iwobi, though.
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I mean, it's not a great way to look at it, but I see him as broadly similar to Iwobi really. But we are paying £1.5 not £30m so some strange improvement there.
 
BlueToff said:
Suppose that'd stand up but Brands has spent big money on wages on tosh like Iwobi and Delph and (mainly due to the injury tbf) Gomes, also Bernard etc.

Not saying he had final say on those deals but they've happened under his watch.

Tbh mate, we're just skint. Or, we've got money, but can't spend it, so need players shifted and until we do, this is what we have.

These will, in an ideal world, replace squad players like Bernard, Walcott, King etc. Hopefully we can punt Iwobi for half-decent money (£15m). Any big spend will depend on Kean, think it was always going to.
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The scenario's I see from this would be;
1) The club don't want to break the rules
2) The owners don't want to spend a load more on transfers (maybe just this summer with the ground financing to be agreed)
3) There has been a policy shift
4) The top younger players we could buy, just won't come, and we are sick of overpaying for average players.

We know the club is skint and can't sustain itself, but the question really comes to the owners and their willingness to spend. The acid test may be if Kean goes, what we do.

I happen to think Brands will bring 2 or 3 younger players in, and if that's how we move forward, and get away from these "marquee" signings, people may actually be able to get on board with it a bit more in the long run.
 

catcherintherye said:
Peinaar had been pretty woeful at Dortmund though hadn't he? Although I did read somewhere that Klopp wanted to keep him.

I mean the scale may be different, but the principle that players might have talent is the point really.

Gray seems to have done ok at Leverkusen. I think he will be better than Iwobi who occupied the role last season.

Either way, I braced for this when we got Benitez. This was obviously what was going to follow. At least we haven't spunked a load of money on it like with certain previous managers.
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catcherintherye said:
The relevance is, in this context anyway, that I know what an awful player looks like and I don't think Andros Townsend is that. But maybe he is, and he leaves after 1 year.

There is much much bigger problems in this squad than what we do with him for the next 12 months though IMO. Cenk Tosun for 1.
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We desperately need pace and directness injecting into this team and Gray will provide that off the bench.

West Ham last season weren't great but had pacey options - Lingard, Behrama, Bowen, Lanzini. None great but just enough to have options off the bench to get in behind a tiring defence.

We still desperately need a top class RW and I'll be disappointed if either Iwobi or Townsend are starting games this season but as squad players they are better than what we have.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
We desperately need pace and directness injecting into this team and Gray will provide that off the bench.

West Ham last season weren't great but had pacey options - Lingard, Behrama, Bowen, Lanzini. None great but just enough to have options off the bench to get in behind a tiring defence.

We still desperately need a top class RW and I'll be disappointed if either Iwobi or Townsend are starting games this season but as squad players they are better than what we have.
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The problem is though, without a big sale, maybe we are not in a position to make that acquisition?

I agree re Gray though, he and Dumfries will both do what we were lacking lack season. You put them into the team, get Gbamin firing and maybe Iwobi firing centrally and suddenly we have quite a different look about is in terms of power and pace in the side.
 

catcherintherye said:
The problem is though, without a big sale, maybe we are not in a position to make that acquisition?

I agree re Gray though, he and Dumfries will both do what we were lacking lack season. You put them into the team, get Gbamin firing and maybe Iwobi firing centrally and suddenly we have quite a different look about is in terms of power and pace in the side.
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I still think Kean will go later in the window - would love us to replace him with Tammy Abraham who I think is the right profile to blood alongside DCL.

Dumfries sounds a goer and rumours still around Coutinho on loan. I think we'll get another 3 after Begovic/Townsend/Gray in which providing they are of good quality I'll be happy.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
I still think Kean will go later in the window - would love us to replace him with Tammy Abraham who I think is the right profile to blood alongside DCL.

Dumfries sounds a goer and rumours still around Coutinho on loan. I think we'll get another 3 after Begovic/Townsend/Gray in which providing they are of good quality I'll be happy.
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Tammy Abraham will want to be no. 1 striker wherever he goes next, he's not swapping Chelsea's bench for ours. No chance.
 

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