Everton Summer transfers 2021

[Zatara]

I've been thinking of this conundrum (and this example) a fair bit.

You will have to pay for a fair amount of "english tax" (and probably doubly so given you are buying and selling from England) but the benefits are that you have seen the player deliver in England's top division. There should be a price to that. Now whether we feel that price should be below, above or at about the level it's at is interesting, but we should accept that such a premium exists and for where we are, it's worth considering.

The key mistake we probably made in the past, was paying that additional fee on declining assets. To me it is different buying players under 25 and doing it. You are just much more likely to put a tick in the box.

If we had a big sale, I'd be very open to bringing in a Neto, Bissouma in midfield etc as while you can probably find players with a similar ceiling for less, I'm not sure they will have anything approaching the same floor.

Heres 3 things i am wondering:


1: Big name players not in a top 4 side

Under the assumption that we put down an acceptable offer for the player and offered a high wage...

If Rice doesnt go to United, who will sign him for £60mil+ ? Where does Soucek go? Could Moyes want one of our players in a swap deal...i dont know.

Will Neto and Neves get a move to a top 4 side?

These players would all cost a heavy premium but we 'may' have somewhat of a chance of signing them.


2: Young potential superstars overseas

Inter are desperate for money, could we get Lautaro? Bastoni? Hakimi?

Camavinga, Gravenberch, Kounde, Aouar, Wirtz, Tapsoba, Kamara, Bellingham, Bailey, Locatelli, Emerson etc etc

If we offer the money then would these types of players join the club to play for Ancelotti and know they can get regular game time?

Weve seen Bellingham supposedly turn United down as he wanted regular games which he got in Dortmund. Would players prefer to join us to make their mark on the premier league?


3: Players from less successful premier league teams

Bissouma and Lamptey at Brighton of course and (once they are promoted) Aarons and Buendia at Norwich...

These types of signings are less risky than overseas but due to the tv deal carry the premium -- the same goes for even championship players these days.

Are they big fish in a small pond and can they be a bigger fish in a larger pond?


Beyond these 3 options we of course have the discounted / out of contract older star players like Koulibaly and Ramos for example...those whose clubs are from 'weaker' leagues and perhaps the option of loans to buy as West Ham managed to do with Soucek.


The three main options would be the route i would primarily favour...where we are now i think we need to be building a team to carry us for the next 5-10 years of players whose values will increase and that we could sell at a huge premium to recycle players as Leicester, Dortmund and Atletico etc have done. But who can make an impact for us today.

If you pick out one player from each of those 3 options then you could expect our team to look far stronger next season.

We will need to spend serious money to break into that top 4 and stay there.

 

[Nymzee]

Can Barrow afford the wages ??

He'd play for us for free if he knew how nice Barrow birds are.

 

[Nymzee]

I am hoping for Troy Deeney
We have been linked every summer and he would be a great impact sub

Almost a welcome home, Troy.

 

[Nymzee]

Is that how Brazilians spell Simon?

 

[Goat]

Heres 3 things i am wondering:


1: Big name players not in a top 4 side

Under the assumption that we put down an acceptable offer for the player and offered a high wage...

If Rice doesnt go to United, who will sign him for £60mil+ ? Where does Soucek go? Could Moyes want one of our players in a swap deal...i dont know.

Will Neto and Neves get a move to a top 4 side?

These players would all cost a heavy premium but we 'may' have somewhat of a chance of signing them.


2: Young potential superstars overseas

Inter are desperate for money, could we get Lautaro? Bastoni? Hakimi?

Camavinga, Gravenberch, Kounde, Aouar, Wirtz, Tapsoba, Kamara, Bellingham, Bailey, Locatelli, Emerson etc etc

If we offer the money then would these types of players join the club to play for Ancelotti and know they can get regular game time?

Weve seen Bellingham supposedly turn United down as he wanted regular games which he got in Dortmund. Would players prefer to join us to make their mark on the premier league?


3: Players from less successful premier league teams

Bissouma and Lamptey at Brighton of course and (once they are promoted) Aarons and Buendia at Norwich...

These types of signings are less risky than overseas but due to the tv deal carry the premium -- the same goes for even championship players these days.

Are they big fish in a small pond and can they be a bigger fish in a larger pond?


Beyond these 3 options we of course have the discounted / out of contract older star players like Koulibaly and Ramos for example...those whose clubs are from 'weaker' leagues and perhaps the option of loans to buy as West Ham managed to do with Soucek.


The three main options would be the route i would primarily favour...where we are now i think we need to be building a team to carry us for the next 5-10 years of players whose values will increase and that we could sell at a huge premium to recycle players as Leicester, Dortmund and Atletico etc have done.

If you pick out one player from each of those 3 options then you could expect our team to look far stronger next season.

We will need to spend serious money to break into that top 4.

Quite confident we wont sign any of those players personally.

Dont even see us signing Aarons at this point, given his fee.

You don't have to take it personally Zat, I just don't see many of those coming here.

No, I don't have my own names, 1 thing I've learnt about Everton transfers is that most of the time we sign players nobody has ever mentioned.

 

[Brisan123]

How many players are we signing then?

Depends on FFP and how much the upholsterers find down the back of the sofas on the Dilbar

 

[Zatara]

There you go, great example Noni Madueke.

19 England u21 player...

What are the chances of Brands even looking at him seeing as hes playing in Holland?

Btw forgot to remind you earlier, Brands name checked Gravenberch and said he would almost certainly move to a club right at the top when he was asked if we may be keen.

So it seems like he highly rates him...im eager to see who or if we sign anyone from the Eredivisie.

Neto, Celik, Koulibaly



Dump the 14 duds

Sell Kean (id like to see him stick around). Holgate or Mina

Mitrovic as a bench player, could be our Andy Gray


Simple

Who are the 14 to leave?

Quite confident we wont sign any of those players personally.

Dont even see us signing Aarons at this point, given his fee.

You don't have to take it personally Zat, I just don't see many of those coming here.

No, I don't have my own names, 1 thing I've learnt about Everton transfers is that most of the time we sign players nobody has ever mentioned.

Its not really about those players i listed there...more about those different areas of recruitment we could look at following on from @catcherintherye post.

This summer there will be teams who need money and there could be a unique opportunity or two in the swap deal market.

Could we move:
Mina to Napoli + cash for Koulibaly ?
Mina to Seville + cash for Kounde ?
Kean to PSG / Juve for someone ?
Gomes ?
Keane to West Ham for someone ?
Iwobi ?
Kenny ?

Never know this summer...teams may accept a player to get a deal done.

As for the Fees...Aarons in for £20mil and Kenny going the other way perhaps plus someone on loan could be interesting for them.

Anyway, for his post is say we should mainly aim at the 'available' big name players in the premier league, top performers at smaller clubs under 25 and young foreign high potential players who can make an instant impact.

If those fees can be offset with swaps...then all the better.

 

[Brisan123]

There you go, great example Noni Madueke.

19 England u21 player...

What are the chances of Brands even looking at him seeing as hes playing in Holland?

Btw forgot to remind you earlier, Brands name checked Gravenberch and said he would almost certainly move to a club right at the top when he was asked if we may be keen.

So it seems like he highly rates him...im eager to see who or if we sign anyone from the Eredivisie.



Who are the 14 to leave?



Its not really about those players i listed there...more about those different areas of recruitment we could look at following on from @catcherintherye post.

This summer there will be teams who need money and there could be a unique opportunity or two in the swap deal market.

Could we move:
Mina to Napoli + cash for Koulibaly ?
Mina to Seville + cash for Kounde ?
Kean to PSG / Juve for someone ?
Gomes ?
Keane to West Ham for someone ?
Iwobi ?
Kenny ?

Never know this summer...teams may accept a player to get a deal done.

As for the Fees...Aarons in for £20mil and Kenny going the other way perhaps plus someone on loan could be interesting for them.

Anyway, for his post is say we should mainly aim at the 'available' big name players in the premier league, top performers at smaller clubs under 25 and young foreign high potential players who can make an instant impact.

If those fees can be offset with swaps...then all the better.

Pick from about 20

 

[Brisan123]

There you go, great example Noni Madueke.

19 England u21 player...

What are the chances of Brands even looking at him seeing as hes playing in Holland?

Btw forgot to remind you earlier, Brands name checked Gravenberch and said he would almost certainly move to a club right at the top when he was asked if we may be keen.

So it seems like he highly rates him...im eager to see who or if we sign anyone from the Eredivisie.



Who are the 14 to leave?



Its not really about those players i listed there...more about those different areas of recruitment we could look at following on from @catcherintherye post.

This summer there will be teams who need money and there could be a unique opportunity or two in the swap deal market.

Could we move:
Mina to Napoli + cash for Koulibaly ?
Mina to Seville + cash for Kounde ?
Kean to PSG / Juve for someone ?
Gomes ?
Keane to West Ham for someone ?
Iwobi ?
Kenny ?

Never know this summer...teams may accept a player to get a deal done.

As for the Fees...Aarons in for £20mil and Kenny going the other way perhaps plus someone on loan could be interesting for them.

Anyway, for his post is say we should mainly aim at the 'available' big name players in the premier league, top performers at smaller clubs under 25 and young foreign high potential players who can make an instant impact.

If those fees can be offset with swaps...then all the better.

I think Norwich have ambitions to try and stay up next season

 

[blulouie]

Think Mina is off myself, couple of rumours wasn’t there

Well then

So is Richy
So is Dom
So is Digne
& So is James.

Sells papers I suppose.

 

[stretford blue]

There you go, great example Noni Madueke.

19 England u21 player...

What are the chances of Brands even looking at him seeing as hes playing in Holland?

Btw forgot to remind you earlier, Brands name checked Gravenberch and said he would almost certainly move to a club right at the top when he was asked if we may be keen.

So it seems like he highly rates him...im eager to see who or if we sign anyone from the Eredivisie.



Who are the 14 to leave?



Its not really about those players i listed there...more about those different areas of recruitment we could look at following on from @catcherintherye post.

This summer there will be teams who need money and there could be a unique opportunity or two in the swap deal market.

Could we move:
Mina to Napoli + cash for Koulibaly ?
Mina to Seville + cash for Kounde ?
Kean to PSG / Juve for someone ?
Gomes ?
Keane to West Ham for someone ?
Iwobi ?
Kenny ?

Never know this summer...teams may accept a player to get a deal done.

As for the Fees...Aarons in for £20mil and Kenny going the other way perhaps plus someone on loan could be interesting for them.

Anyway, for his post is say we should mainly aim at the 'available' big name players in the premier league, top performers at smaller clubs under 25 and young foreign high potential players who can make an instant impact.

If those fees can be offset with swaps...then all the better.

Almost certain brands was involved in Madueke moving from I think spurs to psv so will know everything about him

 

[blulouie]

How many players are we signing then?

14 going by the number of outs.

 

[Goat]

There you go, great example Noni Madueke.

19 England u21 player...

What are the chances of Brands even looking at him seeing as hes playing in Holland?

We employ teams of scouts all over the world.

Ive never understood this "We never even looked at them" thinking, we have clearly looked at every player in the world at some point.





The former PSV director was asked by ESPN which player stands out to him, and immediately singled out Ryan Gravenberch.

He said, “If one player really stands out, I think that’s Gravenberch at Ajax. I think he has so much quality and also a physique that he fits into any competition. In my eyes, this is a player of the outside category.”

Asked if he could be a target for Everton, Brands said, “Whether he is feasible for Everton? I’m afraid he will make a choice right away for the absolute top, as for example Frenkie de Jong (to Barcelona) or Memphis Depay to Manchester United at the time did that. “



“I think that if Hirving Lozano and Steven Bergwijn go directly to the absolute top like in the Premier League, they will find it very difficult.

“Look at Naby Keita at Liverpool. He was bought for more than fifty million euros from RB Leipzig, but it’s just on the bank.”

“Thirty million for Hirving and twenty million for Steven, we are not going to pay that much, and for Richarlison we have indeed paid a lot of money, but he is 21 years old and has already proven himself in the Premier League (at Watford FC). He is likely to deliver twice as much, but I do not know about Lozano and Bergwijn.

”If Lozano would cost twenty million, I would consider it, but at higher rates we are looking at players who have already proven it in the Premier League or in another big league.”



Basically, the boy Gravenberch stands out above the rest and I suspect he doesn't really consider the others "worth the risk" unless the price is right.

The fella at Spurs stinks and the boy Lozano hasn't proven to be worth 40m, so far.

Mina to Napoli + cash for Koulibaly ?

No

Mina to Seville + cash for Kounde ?

LOL NO

Kean to PSG / Juve for someone ?

Maybe, but I suspect he wants PSG

Gomes ?

Dont see him moving

Keane to West Ham for someone ?

West Ham don't have anybody we want who they would sell

Iwobi ?

Dont see him moving

Kenny ?

Who cares

 

[paulbefc]

Personally I go the other way and think we'd be best off without Doucoure if we're picking. There's a world where all 3 are fairly decent together too.

I think they'd be a good midfield 3 as neither Allan nor Doucoure are 6s and Gbamin is, but I also expect us to sign another midfielder this summer and personally I think Allan, with his injuries, is the most vulnerable to drop out. This is all assuming the new signing is intended for the first XI.

 

[TheBigIguana]

I think they'd be a good midfield 3 as neither Allan nor Doucoure are 6s and Gbamin is, but I also expect us to sign another midfielder this summer and personally I think Allan, with his injuries, is the most vulnerable to drop out. This is all assuming the new signing is intended for the first XI.

I'd hope he is, we aren't really good enough to sign players who can't start.