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Everton Supporters Trust Safe Standing Survey

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Where have you been?!
I did have an account, but couldn't for the life of me remember the username/password. Much easier to start afresh! :)

STOP GETTING RAIL SEATING WRONG!

This term 'safe standing' has to be dropped, now. It's a totally emotive term that bears no relevance to the issue whatsoever.

Any group endorsing Rail Seating should strongly rally against it's associated usage.

Rail Seating IS safe.
Point noted. I think you're right but i guess the thinking behind the campaign is that it will always be labelled as "standing", and adding the "Safe" to the term is just being proactive in trying to head off any criticism?
 
STOP GETTING RAIL SEATING WRONG!

This term 'safe standing' has to be dropped, now. It's a totally emotive term that bears no relevance to the issue whatsoever.

Any group endorsing Rail Seating should strongly rally against it's associated usage.

Rail Seating IS safe.

I get them all confused myself to be honest.

Safe Standing - that's a very small terrace area isn't it?

Rail seats exactly like there is now with seats, but a rail in front of every row

A standing area? - what fans do themselves now unofficially. Not sure what the name is for that, sometimes called singing section so not to get done for promoting standing
 
I did have an account, but couldn't for the life of me remember the username/password. Much easier to start afresh! :)


Point noted. I think you're right but i guess the thinking behind the campaign is that it will always be labelled as "standing", and adding the "Safe" to the term is just being proactive in trying to head off any criticism?
But it includes the word 'standing' which is a red flag as it is, plus 'safe' which will have people questioning '...but how safe?'

'Rail Seating' does away with both of those factors.
 
I get them all confused myself to be honest.

Safe Standing - that's a very small terrace area isn't it?

Rail seats exactly like there is now with seats, but a rail in front of every row

A standing area? - what fans do themselves now unofficially. Not sure what the name is for that
Rail Seating is safe standing. They are one and the same.
 

Everton Supporters Trust (EST) have taken the decision to survey the Everton fan base on their thoughts and feelings around “Safe Standing”.

In recent weeks with the successful installation of “Rail Seating” in Celtic Park the debate around “Safe Standing” has increased within the national game with Clubs like Manchester United showing an interest and the Liverpool Supporters Union recently passing a resolution at their latest AGM to investigate their own supporters thoughts and feelings on the subject . Safe Standing is an emotive subject for football fans and non-football fans alike within this City and EST intend to take an approach to the subject in what we feel is a respectful and inclusive manner.

For Evertonians in particular, a potential new stadium has been a hot topic in recent weeks with the Board of Directors and Mayor of the City meeting regularly and viewing potential sites for a new build. EST believe that the time for Evertonians to discuss and debate “safe standing” is ripe and are keen make the first steps in this process.

To achieve this EST has worked closely with the Football Supporters Federation (The FSF) to come up with a number of questions in a short survey which should hopefully give EST a better understanding on Evertonians opinions on the subject of "Safe Standing".

The survey will run online for a month encompassing both Swansea and Manchester United home games at which EST representatives intend to also personally gauge the opinions of match going Blues, with the results of the survey to be fully released and shared with the Club in the weeks that follow.

EST would like to encourage as many Evertonians as possible to take the time to fill in this survey so both the Trust and the Club have a better understanding of the opinions that Evertonians have relating to the subject.

The survey should take no more than a couple of minutes to complete and can be found by clicking the link below:

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/est-safe-standing-survey

Thank you for your continued help and support.

EST

Done. All for it.

Good to see the Premier League discussing it next week too.
 
If it is genuinely safe standing, at ground level and WITH NO FENCES!!!!!! then I think we should at least look at the possibility and pros and cons and that.
 

What do you mean by 'no fences'? Perimeter fences? They're never coming back.
Exactly that. I'd hate for them to come back and I hope you're right that they don't.

A lot of people over the years have expressed concern that the fences would return if standing did.

Without them I reckon it's worth a go.
 
I'm for it.
However I'm also aware of the law of unintended consequences. A safe standing section will make non standing in seating more strictly enforced. I have a big issue with that because so many grounds are so poorly designed the only way to see action at times is to stand.
 

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