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Everton Transfer Thread 2016

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All the names we are being linked with is just paper talk, i'm sure Koeman and Moshiri know who their targets are.
 
Stoke want a player we have pointed out as being suitable - just like last year with Shaqiri. Its all changed this year though.
 

I'm going to look a bit silly here, but... I don't want Mata.

Don't get me wrong, he's an good player, but for the money and wages he'd cost he's the wrong age and I don't think good enough to merit the outlay.

Yeah, I know we're bankrolled now, but not infinitely so. We could go out and get two good players for the amount it'd cost to bring in one here. He'd cost at least £30m, probably more, and I just don't rate him that highly. He's rarely the standout player on the pitch, and for what is essentially a flair player who doesn't defend, that's a big problem.

We should look to bully a vulnerable Newcastle into getting Wijnaldum (who has the potential to be better than he was last season, and he was pretty good even then) for around £15m, then use the surplus cash to improve central midfield - McCarthy isn't good enough, Besic unproven and Barry could collapse in form any day now.
 

I'm going to look a bit silly here, but... I don't want Mata.

Don't get me wrong, he's an good player, but for the money and wages he'd cost he's the wrong age and I don't think good enough to merit the outlay.

Yeah, I know we're bankrolled now, but not infinitely so. We could go out and get two good players for the amount it'd cost to bring in one here. He'd cost at least £30m, probably more, and I just don't rate him that highly. He's rarely the standout player on the pitch, and for what is essentially a flair player who doesn't defend, that's a big problem.

We should look to bully a vulnerable Newcastle into getting Wijnaldum (who has the potential to be better than he was last season, and he was pretty good even then) for around £15m, then use the surplus cash to improve central midfield - McCarthy isn't good enough, Besic unproven and Barry could collapse in form any day now.

it's not that I don't want him, but I do have my reservations about him due to a few things you mention above mate.
 
I'm going to look a bit silly here, but... I don't want Mata.

Don't get me wrong, he's an good player, but for the money and wages he'd cost he's the wrong age and I don't think good enough to merit the outlay.

Yeah, I know we're bankrolled now, but not infinitely so. We could go out and get two good players for the amount it'd cost to bring in one here. He'd cost at least £30m, probably more, and I just don't rate him that highly. He's rarely the standout player on the pitch, and for what is essentially a flair player who doesn't defend, that's a big problem.

We should look to bully a vulnerable Newcastle into getting Wijnaldum (who has the potential to be better than he was last season, and he was pretty good even then) for around £15m, then use the surplus cash to improve central midfield - McCarthy isn't good enough, Besic unproven and Barry could collapse in form any day now.

You're right, you look very silly. Read it again and it sounds like you're saying Wijnaldum is a better option than Mata
 
I'm going to look a bit silly here, but... I don't want Mata.

Don't get me wrong, he's an good player, but for the money and wages he'd cost he's the wrong age and I don't think good enough to merit the outlay.

Yeah, I know we're bankrolled now, but not infinitely so. We could go out and get two good players for the amount it'd cost to bring in one here. He'd cost at least £30m, probably more, and I just don't rate him that highly. He's rarely the standout player on the pitch, and for what is essentially a flair player who doesn't defend, that's a big problem.

We should look to bully a vulnerable Newcastle into getting Wijnaldum (who has the potential to be better than he was last season, and he was pretty good even then) for around £15m, then use the surplus cash to improve central midfield - McCarthy isn't good enough, Besic unproven and Barry could collapse in form any day now.

Easy to be the standout player in a shockingly gash Newcastle team (Hello Mr Townsend) harder to do so when pleaying for Utd and Chelsea. Yet IMO Mata often did stand out. The lad oozes class and has 4 or 5 years of top level football.
 
it's not that I don't want him, but I do have my reservations about him due to a few things you mention above mate.

My concern is that if we did sign him, he'd make what I typed above look silly for a few games, but then fade badly and look like a terrible buy after a season or two.

Let's face it, there's a reason he's linked with a move away from United - he generally hadn't made the grade there and is dispensable. He tends to have big eye catching periods of a season, then fade to anonymity for the rest of it.
 
Easy to be the standout player in a shockingly gash Newcastle team (Hello Mr Townsend) harder to do so when pleaying for Utd and Chelsea. Yet IMO Mata often did stand out. The lad oozes class and has 4 or 5 years of top level football.

I'd argue with "often" and replace it with "sometimes". For £30m+, you have to be consistent - turning on the style for 10 games a season isn't going to cut it. As harsh as this sounds, I see Mata as a really elite version of James McFadden; can look absolutely incredible sometimes, then have games you hardly notice him.

I don't think Wijnaldum is more talented than Mata - but I think he offers more back to front than Mata will ever do, and isn't too shabby technically either.
 

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