i was just using them as the crap yardstick they always do seem to provide every window.
They must surely be a starting point for us to reach.
Off the field we have lagged behind them for years, on the field we "almost" bridged the gap, clearly they have been fairly successful in cup comps, but we did manage to push and even surpass their league placing a few times in the last few years, prior to us falling off a cliff for the last 2 years.
So in football terms, whether we like it or not, we are basically a 3rd tier team these days, we must get ourselves back into tier 2 where those mutants are firmly poised, then clearly we need to make the jump up to tier 1, which certainly wont happen overnight, but you would hope thats the long term plan.