Everton Transfer Thread 2016

[Paul Dean]

Yes during an interview on Dutch TV

Do you have the quote

 

[KUEFC09U2]

It's not been a failure if you expected us to sell Stones and use the money to strengthen the squad. It's been a failure if you were expecting significant additional investment to allow us to push for top 4.

If we signed Carvalho, Bony, Mata as well as getting Hart and Kone which would have in total been around a net spend of 100m we would have a squad that could realistically push for top 4 so in that respect it is a failure but it just depends what you were expecting going in.

So you are honestly not expecting us to do any more business? Stones has wanted to leave for over a year, and koeman even tried to get him to stay, so what you are trying to say is if we kept stones then we wouldn't have signed anyone? Behave

 

[bluestevon]

on thw whole yes because of the lack of balance in it still.

You can pick out the odd player and say they are better but on the whole i wouldn't say so. Consdering both teams outperformed us for 2 years as well! Only team that is up for debate is stoke on that front as they have a good team but a poor squad.

But yeah, if you take a step back and look at the lack of striking options, CMs who may struggle to play the role (gibson/cleverley), one right back, 3 centre halves (not including holgate in that as he won't oust anyone now). We have finally got the left sided mid, we have got competition in goal but once you pick up a couple of injuries or suspensions then it is the squad balance which then comes into effect.

West Ham are an injury away from being a 14-15th place team mate - Showed last season when they went into free fall soon as Payet was injured
Saints have weakened significantly this summer
Stoke are for want of another word - a bag of plums
and the rs will beat some very good teams and lose an equal number to very bad teams all season long and limp in just above midtable again

Could easily argue that our managerial change alone put us from behind these lot to above them all

 

[bluestevon]

on thw whole yes because of the lack of balance in it still.

You can pick out the odd player and say they are better but on the whole i wouldn't say so. Consdering both teams outperformed us for 2 years as well! Only team that is up for debate is stoke on that front as they have a good team but a poor squad.

But yeah, if you take a step back and look at the lack of striking options, CMs who may struggle to play the role (gibson/cleverley), one right back, 3 centre halves (not including holgate in that as he won't oust anyone now). We have finally got the left sided mid, we have got competition in goal but once you pick up a couple of injuries or suspensions then it is the squad balance which then comes into effect.

West Ham are an injury away from being a 14-15th place team mate - Showed last season when they went into free fall soon as Payet was injured
Saints have weakened significantly this summer
Stoke are for want of another word - a bag of plums
and the rs will beat some very good teams and lose an equal number to very bad teams all season long and limp in just above midtable again

Could easily argue that our managerial change alone put us from behind these lot to above them all

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Patience is not just a great song by Gun's and Roses, but it's also something desperately required around these parts

It seems like Moshiri is in this for the long haul and it looks like we're getting the stadium sorted, along with making some shrewd signings in places where we needed depth

Gana, Bolasie, Williams and Stekky have all contributed to making us a better side than we were last season

We will not be buying loads of big name players and conquering all comers over night. We're not going to "do a City"

I'm quitely confident that we're moving in the right direction, and we might even have one last "big" signing in us between now and deadline day, but this will take time. It's a marathon, not a sprint

I'm more relaxed with Everton than I have been in years. The first couple of months of this season were always going to be a bit of a slog. The players aren't fit enough, we're bedding in new players and Koeman is trying to put his own mark on things when he hasn't really been here for that long

This. Will. Take. Time

I think we all just need to calm down a bit quite honestly

 

[gaino92]

It's not been a failure if you expected us to sell Stones and use the money to strengthen the squad. It's been a failure if you were expecting significant additional investment to allow us to push for top 4.

If we signed Carvalho, Bony, Mata as well as getting Hart and Kone which would have in total been around a net spend of 100m we would have a squad that could realistically push for top 4 so in that respect it is a failure but it just depends what you were expecting going in.

 

[PhilM]

Nope

It was basically on every media outlet that Koman would have 100m to spend + whatever was brought in through sales

Not to be obtuse but I've mentioned this many times before: where has it been confirmed that there would be in excess of £100m to spend?

Apart from an article by the Mirror mentioning that figure way back in February (and we know how reliable they are!) it's been mostly here-say.

I'll admit a small number of other papers have fleetingly mentioned it, but I'm still lacking a reliable source which suggests it's the figure.

Instead, a process of Chinese whispers and fan speculation/fanciful talk have ingrained the figure into the fan base to a point it's now gospel.

I'm not saying we do not have that figure to spend or that we won't spend that much, but the talk of a war chest doesn't signify an actual amount.

Perhaps the £100m is reference to an overall initial investment rather than purely an amount that has been put aside for transfers?

I don't know and the point is neither does anyone else but those behind the scenes. We'll keep spending until the window closes and then see.

 

[Paul Dean]

Patience is not just a great song by Gun's and Roses, but it's also something desperately required around these parts

It seems like Moshiri is in this for the long haul and it looks like we're getting the stadium sorted, along with making some shrewd signings in places where we needed depth

Gana, Bolasie, Williams and Stekky have all contributed to making us a better side than we were last season

We will not be buying loads of big name players and conquering all comers over night. We're not going to "do a City"

I'm quitely confident that we're moving in the right direction, and we might even have one last "big" signing in us between now and deadline day, but this will take time. It's a marathon, not a sprint

I'm more relaxed with Everton than I have been in years. The first couple of months of this season were always going to be a bit of a slog. The players aren't fit enough, we're bedding in new players and Koeman is trying to put his own mark on things when he hasn't really been here for that long

This. Will. Take. Time

I think we all just need to calm down a bit quite honestly

I keep seeing this but apart from some people on here saying it's happening there is no evidence anything has happened regarding a stadium

 

[the sniderman]

It's not been a failure if you expected us to sell Stones and use the money to strengthen the squad. It's been a failure if you were expecting significant additional investment to allow us to push for top 4.

If we signed Carvalho, Bony, Mata as well as getting Hart and Kone which would have in total been around a net spend of 100m we would have a squad that could realistically push for top 4 so in that respect it is a failure but it just depends what you were expecting going in.

hey mcfly. mcfly. anyone home??

 

[BlueToff]

It's not been a failure if you expected us to sell Stones and use the money to strengthen the squad. It's been a failure if you were expecting significant additional investment to allow us to push for top 4.

If we signed Carvalho, Bony, Mata as well as getting Hart and Kone which would have in total been around a net spend of 100m we would have a squad that could realistically push for top 4 so in that respect it is a failure but it just depends what you were expecting going in.

I was expecting us to improve the squad and possibly get one major player in (still very, very possible btw).

Koeman has said himself the target is top six. It's going to be a slow build but with a manager who can actually organise and get the best out of the players we already had here we're half-way there.

Add into that the signings we already have made, and the additional ones that are bound to come in, and we've improved on a squad that has 'underachieved' considering the quality in it (the reason Martinez was sacked btw. If this was a squad that was meant to finish 11th two years running, he'd still have been here...)

On the 'net spend' front. I was mainly bothered about any money being brought in from sales going entirely back into the squad (which it has done, that can't be denied).

Yes, I'd love us to go out and spend an additional £25mil and we may well do (and we seemingly have the capability to do so), but I don't think it's wrong to assume that we've had difficulty getting high profile players like Witsel and Carvalho in as we're a hard sell at the moment to players who can reasonably command starting places in teams competing for league titles and in the CL.

 

[gaino92]

I keep seeing this but apart from some people on here saying it's happening there is no evidence anything has happened regarding a stadium

Have you not seen the cladding going up at Goodison?!

 

[ashwuk76]

I dont think this window has been a failure.. We have got rid of some of our dead wood, not all of it though, but a good start.

As much as I would have liked us to sign Mata etc I think we need to be a touch realistic as to where we are right now, and sadly with no European football of any kind, that means we miss out on the targets we want. But we have had bids accepted which is a sign we are moving in the right direction , and yes I believe the money is there to have signed them if the players wanted to come.

I do think we will sign a few more players which will hopefully get us top 5 and then next summer we can go after better targets. Patience is the key here as it won't be done overnight, if we had European football I seriously think the summer would have been a lot different.

 

[MartyMcFly]

So you are honestly not expecting us to do any more business? Stones has wanted to leave for over a year, and koeman even tried to get him to stay, so what you are trying to say is if we kept stones then we wouldn't have signed anyone? Behave

I'm not saying that. I'm saying the plan was always to use the Stones and TV money to strengthen the squad without Moshiri having to invest in the squad. I think we might bring in Kone and that would be the last of the extra TV money.

Do you honestly think we will bring in anyone else assuming no one leaves?

I didn't think so.

 

[BlueToff]

Not to be obtuse but I've mentioned this many times before: where has it been confirmed that there would be in excess of £100m to spend?

Apart from an article by the Mirror mentioning that figure way back in February (and we know how reliable they are!) it's been mostly here-say.

I'll admit a small number of other papers have fleetingly mentioned it, but I'm still even lacking a reliable source which suggests it's the figure.

Instead, a process of Chinese whispers and fan speculation/fanciful talk have ingrained the figure into the fan base to a point it's now gospel.

I'm not saying we do not have that figure to spend or that we won't spend that much, but the talk of a war chest doesn't signify an actual amount.

Perhaps the £100m is reference to an overall initial investment rather than purely an amount that has been put aside for transfers?

I don't know and the point is neither does anyone else but those behind the scenes. We'll keep spending until the window closes and then see.

Just in my opinion mate - this has been my thinking all along and it was at the start as well.

The media probably did get hold of that figure - and from their point of view spinning it as a '100mil war chest' is a better story than a '100mil investment'. It's also what the fans want to here.

And it's those fans that are now claiming promises have been broken, when the only statements made are that Moshiri is fully behind us pushing for more players (which I think is evident).

Big few days for the club but we've got a solid base to build on now thanks to A) the work done by Koeman in pre-season on getting the fitness up (and now it's looking like we're getting sharper) and B) the additions already here.

Still work to do though, obviously, but I'm confident we'll have added a few more by next Thursday.

 

[Nyhus]

I thought Everton were going to spend big this window. Everton fans have reason to be hopeful under Koeman but could we with being a bit more ambitious. Not sure how real intentions were if you are not prepared to pay the wages for top players.

From all the weird rumours Ive read online these last months, Joe Hart on loan seems to be the only deal where wages is a problem. And i get that, City should have to pay some of his wages, or they should out-right sell him to us. All other rumours has been in the vain of "ambitious Everton, set to double blahblahblahs wage, to lure him to mercyside.". In fact, I just read exactly that about these striking targets of ours.
We are shopping in a higher end player pool this season, players whom probably all want CL, which we aint got. So, they prefer to wait for other deals. Just you wait, come deadline day, we have another striker and defender, at least.