Everton Transfer Thread 2016

[LocalNative]

I think RK and SW will be as frustrated as the fans,there will be numerous targets.

As someone said a few days ago, the more players you miss out on the further down that list you go til we're signing players that weren't even second or third choice.

This is one of the pitfalls of leaving your transfer business so late.

 

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[El Principito]

Man Stevie Wonder has let himself go.

 

[riddick]

See that...that line there, well, here's how people need to start viewing that as a point, it's not hard and it's pretty straightforward...

Just flip it, it's a doddle when you flip it...

Ergo:

It APPEARS we are taking an age to get deals done because the players we're attempting to get things done with are - in some cases - hanging WELL back before committing in order they wait and see if anyone else comes in for them.

Like, say....ARSENAL.

The money's down, the offers are there, the wages are in place...

It's the sell that's difficult....

'...come to us....we finish 11th...'

It's grim though that the club gets hauled over the stones (not by you mate BTW) for this just because players/targets are picky petulant ball-bags.....and factor in the point that, simply, we're not as big as some of us think we are...if some of these teats want EURO footy, all that, then they're in no rush to sign for us no matter how long our offer's been on the table...

Crap innit but that, m'fweeeend, is how it is...

lets put it this way: is it not a BIT peculiar we haven't gotten anyone in who said 'wow, I know they aren't in Europe but those wages are insane, I'm going there' from our list of European targets?

 

[Darth Toffeeman]

It’s hard to see this transfer window as anything other than disappointing but it’s also important to understand the context for this and not draw any rash conclusions about the new ownership.

In many ways it looks very similar to most transfer windows we’ve had for the last 15 years. Not an awful lot of investment in the playing squad, selling a big player and re-investing while standing behind reasons/excuses that investment in other areas has to be factored in. While you can’t really argue with any of that I think it is useful to scratch a layer below to notice other factors at play.

The window was always going to be difficult. The club has restructured almost every aspect of it. The management, coaching staff, recruitment team, how we recruit, board room, leading shareholder as well as exploring a change of home. I could go on but you get the picture.

The two areas which probably have most relevance to the recruitment are that we now have a DOF & Manager. Both of them started new this season. In the past we’ve had managers overlapping much of both roles. I think longer term this will benefit the club. If one leaves the other can stay and keep things ticking over. Similar to Southampton this summer, there was no panic when Koeman left and transfers continued to be done. It is often said with United it wasn’t just that Ferguson left but that Gill went too that saw them go into a relative decline.

The window has been a bit of a fraught one. We started aiming at a grade players and couldn’t get any concluded (Witsel, Koulibaly, Mata, Carvalho). We then seemed to go to tried and tested players from the PL (Bolasie, Gueye, Williams, Kone). Currently we seem to broadening out somewhat looking at more unknowns, which I put down to the Walsh influence (Ghezzal, Perez, Abdennour etc) but not concluding any yet. We are yet to see what the final phase will give us, but what we can say is things will speed up and probably reach a crescendo on deadline day.

I’m sure it won’t be popular but we do need to do better. Even if we pull some stuff out of the bag we will have to acknowledge we left ourselves a bit light at the start of the season and we didn’t manage to convince the first players we wanted. It’s a high expectation but that is what we are dealing with now. It doesn’t mean we panic and start throwing people out of jobs. But quietly Moshiri may reiterate his desire. In future windows we will have to try harder to acquire the best earlier. Is that possible? Well that’s an open question but that should certainly be our aspiration and I hope that’s underlined.

That being said you can just judge Moshiri on 1 transfer window. You have to judge him on numerous windows and also what goes on additionally to player recruitment. As a club we have been too guilty of focussing on player recruitment too closely and neglecting other areas. Much of the frustration I think stems from the good work we are doing outside of the transfer window is not replicated to quite the same level with transfer. We got Southamptons manager in, the champions DOF, are making good progress with a Ground move which looks outstanding yet transfers are proving a bit more challenging.

What we need is more than 1 window of investment. I’m sure we will spend some more before it closes, though probably not coming close to the sort of net figures we were hoping for (I would love to be proven wrong here!). However come January and next summer the recruitment process needs to continue and I suspect it will. I firmly believe Walsh and Koeman don’t come unless they are given an indication of what possibilities they have and if it doesn’t work out one summer, you just pop it back slightly to the next window/season.

From the start of the summer I think most people could have united around the question that Everton needed to make a statement of intent. Most of what we do should be judged by that question. Has this window been a statement of intent? Different people will answer that accordingly. I am of the viewpoint of somewhat.

We haven’t as yet acquired a marquee name. Nobody we have signed gets us off our seats in a way Witsel may have done. We haven’t resembled Manchester City of even Chelsea in their first summer.

That being said we have taken Southampton’s manager, Leicester’s DOF, Swansea’s captain and Crystal Palace’s best player and may get a deal done for Sunderlands best defender. Before this season started in the eyes of many in the media, the league table and probably many perceptions in football they were our equivalents. I don’t think the previous regime did anything to challenge that. It may not be the statement we had first wanted but distinguishing ourselves from those clubs is a significant step. We should also not underestimate this, Spurs have been unable to get Berahino out of West Brom for the last 12 months (a similar situation to ourselves and some of those clubs).

Anyway to conclude (apologies for the long post) it does resemble a typical Everton window on the face of it. I do wonder if it’s such a bad thing. Under Moyes I am not sure if the recruitment was bad in as much as there wasn’t enough trading done and much of it was done without the managers willing agreement.

Koeman seems far more relaxed about the current state of affairs. It is not always about how much you spend but what quality you can attract. I think we are in a better state than what we inherited and with Koeman particularly so. If we can add some faces on top of it, in difficult circumstances and not without criticism or difficulty we may have made a promising start to a new regime.

Man City started their climb up the table by buying the best players from those around them and cast offs from the top (Santa Cruz, Wayne Bridge etc). We are doing similar at the moment, but hopefully with better character too. I don't see Williams, Gana or Bolasie coming here just for the money. This is the correct step to take currently. Nothing wrong with us targeting Witsel etc but I doubt he could have performed any better than Gana has so far.

 

[mahermi1]

Did we really need to employ Walsh, could we have let him stay at Leicester and just waited on him identifying players and then out bidding them. Just like everyone seems to be doing to us.

Haha fair point we must be an agent's dream, either we get the said player a big pay rise as he elects to stay at his club. Or we get him a CL club. Ffs were becoming like a fluffer in a porno movie.

 

[Blue Cheese]

mcfly??

Think he's ignoring you mate, something to hide? I wouldn't let that lie, web him snidey.

 

[Blue Cheese]

Sod off with the board stuff, this is the pick a player out of thin air and talk about him thread.

 

[granter79]

any news today other than the fume over a player none of us knew about until 2 days ago?

 

[danny=)]

Sod off with the board stuff, this is the pick a player out of thin air and talk about him thread.

 

[everton2004]

Did we really need to employ Walsh, could we have let him stay at Leicester and just waited on him identifying players and then out bidding them. Just like everyone seems to be doing to us.

Who is outbidding us? We're being gazumped by other teams who can offer CL/EL football or who have a better recent record than us. Modern day top footballers only have eyes for CL - we cannot offer that so they have their heads turned by interested clubs who can.

 

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[Caolam]

In hindsight it was unrealistic to suppose we were just going to flash the cash and Champions League quality players were going to be queuing up at the doors of Goodison looking to sign.
We need to build, top 8 this year with maybe a cup win and then strengthen again next summer.
We still need a couple to come in but I fear the marquee signing isn't going to materialise.