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Everton Transfer Thread 2016

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andy4efc said:
Those, and one person in particular keeps pointing out the Boselli signing for Wigan without actually looking at it, hell bent on just slating Martinez. Have some perspective...

1. We are looking for back up, not first choice.

2. Wigan didn't have 10m for first-choice striker, nevermind 28m for the striker we have.

3. While it didn't work out for Boselli in England, you can see why he was gambled on, (1 in 2 strike rate). You can see the logic in why Wigan took a gamble on him.

4. Boselli was always going to be a gamble for Wigan, yes it turned out to be a poor signing but they had to take that risk because of the size they are. They needed relatively cheap bargains who COULD, turn good.

5. We are in a position where we can sign a lad from here with a 1/2 goal rate and test the waters without any real damage financially, Wigan were not. Even at the time of signing, 6m wasn't really that much.

6. Boselli is now in Mexico after a poor stint at Palermo (Oh look, another manager obviously thought they may be able to get something out of him). He's scored 49 goals in 72 games for Leon. YES he didn't work out in Europe, but he obviously isn't garbage and was always going to be a gamble.

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Sir Alex Ferguson took these gambles, sometimes they worked, sometimes they didn't... (Eric Djemba Djemba, Kleberson).... then £12m for a lad from Sporting Lisbon, that gamble turned out well? Point being sometimes it just doesn't work. Doesn't make the manager terrible, doesn't make the player terrible. That Boselli signing was ALWAYS a signing with a risk, it didn't work out. Stop pointing it out without the relevant perspective.

What do you judge Ferguson on, his trophies or his transfers? If you want to criticse Martinez for his management this season, fair enough, it's criticisable... His transfer record is generally very good.
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spot on, be constructive in criticism of martinez..this cant include his transfer record
 
andy4efc said:
Those, and one person in particular keeps pointing out the Boselli signing for Wigan without actually looking at it, hell bent on just slating Martinez. Have some perspective...

1. We are looking for back up, not first choice.

2. Wigan didn't have 10m for first-choice striker, nevermind 28m for the striker we have.

3. While it didn't work out for Boselli in England, you can see why he was gambled on, (1 in 2 strike rate). You can see the logic in why Wigan took a gamble on him.

4. Boselli was always going to be a gamble for Wigan, yes it turned out to be a poor signing but they had to take that risk because of the size they are. They needed relatively cheap bargains who COULD, turn good.

5. We are in a position where we can sign a lad from here with a 1/2 goal rate and test the waters without any real damage financially, Wigan were not. Even at the time of signing, 6m wasn't really that much.

6. Boselli is now in Mexico after a poor stint at Palermo (Oh look, another manager obviously thought they may be able to get something out of him). He's scored 49 goals in 72 games for Leon. YES he didn't work out in Europe, but he obviously isn't garbage and was always going to be a gamble.

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Sir Alex Ferguson took these gambles, sometimes they worked, sometimes they didn't... (Eric Djemba Djemba, Kleberson).... then £12m for a lad from Sporting Lisbon, that gamble turned out well? Point being sometimes it just doesn't work. Doesn't make the manager terrible, doesn't make the player terrible. That Boselli signing was ALWAYS a signing with a risk, it didn't work out. Stop pointing it out without the relevant perspective.

What do you judge Ferguson on, his trophies or his transfers? If you want to criticse Martinez for his management this season, fair enough, it's criticisable... His transfer record is generally very good.
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Worth a gamble , cost next nothing , some scoring rate that in any league, could be a hidden jem, who knows till we see him?
 
andy4efc said:
Those, and one person in particular keeps pointing out the Boselli signing for Wigan without actually looking at it, hell bent on just slating Martinez. Have some perspective...

1. We are looking for back up, not first choice.

2. Wigan didn't have 10m for first-choice striker, nevermind 28m for the striker we have.

3. While it didn't work out for Boselli in England, you can see why he was gambled on, (1 in 2 strike rate). You can see the logic in why Wigan took a gamble on him.

4. Boselli was always going to be a gamble for Wigan, yes it turned out to be a poor signing but they had to take that risk because of the size they are. They needed relatively cheap bargains who COULD, turn good.

5. We are in a position where we can sign a lad from here with a 1/2 goal rate and test the waters without any real damage financially, Wigan were not. Even at the time of signing, 6m wasn't really that much.

6. Boselli is now in Mexico after a poor stint at Palermo (Oh look, another manager obviously thought they may be able to get something out of him). He's scored 49 goals in 72 games for Leon. YES he didn't work out in Europe, but he obviously isn't garbage and was always going to be a gamble.

-

Sir Alex Ferguson took these gambles, sometimes they worked, sometimes they didn't... (Eric Djemba Djemba, Kleberson).... then £12m for a lad from Sporting Lisbon, that gamble turned out well? Point being sometimes it just doesn't work. Doesn't make the manager terrible, doesn't make the player terrible. That Boselli signing was ALWAYS a signing with a risk, it didn't work out. Stop pointing it out without the relevant perspective.

What do you judge Ferguson on, his trophies or his transfers? If you want to criticse Martinez for his management this season, fair enough, it's criticisable... His transfer record is generally very good.
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Spot on. SAF had some whoppers at United. They could afford to though both financially and by virtue of the fact they were a perennial success.
 

DANNOJ said:
Instead of buying this Bollanos wouldn't it make more sense to erm give Rodriguez a go?
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Also from what we can all tell, Bollanos plays out on the wing regularly for Ecuador as well. Would seem to make sense if Martinez is wanting someone to fill that role that Kone has been playing.

Rodriguez is a striker, more of a poacher than anything.
 
Images here showing his domestic records and national team. 'International cups' is like Champions League/Europa League etc. (obviously the South American version of them)
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BlueToff said:
Also from what we can all tell, Bollanos plays out on the wing regularly for Ecuador as well. Would seem to make sense if Martinez is wanting someone to fill that role that Kone has been playing.

Rodriguez is a striker, more of a poacher than anything.
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Someobe posted a link saying

Main position -- Attacking midfield
Secondary positions - Wing / Striker

So he's at the very least cover for several positions...

Looked at him on youtube and seemed like a forward to me though....


That Valencia at west ham who people are mentioning, how much was he signed for +how about other ecuadorians?

How much are we rumoured to be paying?
 

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