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Everton Transfer Thread - Summer 2020

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Zatara said:
1 / 2: dont disprove my post**

3: As of this moment he is Jelavic. Hes had a half season of good performances. Talk about overhyping.

4: Lozano has done it in;
Mexico
Holland
European matches
International matches

Not only Holland

5: Do you think Pulisic would have done well as a centre forward at Chelsea? Thats what happened to Lozano.




**fair enough if youre just slating him as a national team rival. In Asia weve been fed Pulisic for years now by American presenters. Not so much Lozano.
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This is a strange one for you Zatman. You’re basically saying Pulisic is overrated because he lost his place as a starter at Dortmund after he’d already been sold, yet you use not being a first choice winger as a defense for Lozano at Napoli? If he’s so great, why can’t he win a place?

And by the age of 20, Pulisic had 80 appearances for one of the best clubs in the world. Lozano “Doing it” in Mexico and Holland are basically the same thing. Second rate leagues. He’s never done anything of note in a top tier domestic league. And if we’re looking at internationals, again Pulisic has a better record...

He’s been one of Chelsea’s best players when healthy, and he’s 21 with champs league pedigree. Seems like the exact type of player you usually love.
 
Lozano has not done well at Napoli, the fact that anyone wants them clearly means you have no idea what is happening with football.
 

MarcelsGoat said:
I think Lozano is certainly worth a loan for sure.

But nobody can deny that Pulisic looks the player thats handled the step up better.
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For a handful of games hes looked very good when teams were on their holidays.

Chelsea did very well after the restart and have a very good team...does that make Pulisic world class suddenly lol

Grinch said:
If the season didn’t restart would you say that? He was bang average and struggling.. (coming from an American absolutely broke my heart). After the league return, he has looked unstoppable. Just all depends on game time, system, and confidence
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Chelsea themselves also looked way stronger. Could be their kids needed a rest or Pulisic was used to a mid season break...

Could be brilliant next season who knows...

Currently massively overrated.


PeregrineT said:
Please, only 4 points? Thats only a list to normal people. With you thats the pre-amble to the pre-amble of just the title of your 132 page list.

Such as your 62 item list of why being a sub as a wide player isnt actually playing as a wide player.
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You calling me abnormal?

PeregrineT said:
Or, the player. Almost anybody who transfers to one of the top leagues has great talent, or at least a banging youtube video. But those that truly succeed have the drive and determination behind it and arent willing to just treat it like a well paid holiday like many of our current players.

5 goals in 1000 minutes is not bang average. Thats what he was before the restart. We would dream of having a 15 goal winger over a full season at that "bang average". Like any player he had to go through a rough patch, and surely has more of those to go, but his success ultimately wont be determined by his talent but by his determination, which Im betting he has in spades.
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He hasnt scored 15 league goals though. Hes scored 9 over the season with 4 of them since the restart.

Thats for Chelsea, not Everton. Lets see how he does next season as for now hes massively overrated.


carolinablue232 said:
This is a strange one for you Zatman. You’re basically saying Pulisic is overrated because he lost his place as a starter at Dortmund after he’d already been sold, yet you use not being a first choice winger as a defense for Lozano at Napoli? If he’s so great, why can’t he win a place?

And by the age of 20, Pulisic had 80 appearances for one of the best clubs in the world. Lozano “Doing it” in Mexico and Holland are basically the same thing. Second rate leagues. He’s never done anything of note in a top tier domestic league. And if we’re looking at internationals, again Pulisic has a better record...

He’s been one of Chelsea’s best players when healthy, and he’s 21 with champs league pedigree. Seems like the exact type of player you usually love.
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All im saying is that Lozano was played up front or as a sub (probably 85% as a support striker) and youve called him overrated based on 1 season out of position.

While saying Pulisic is top quality because he did well after a restart in a high performing team.

To be honest i couldnt care less about Pulisic. Im amazed that Lozano is now seemingly underrated from a season in Italy out of position.

sanctioned said:
Lozano has not done well at Napoli, the fact that anyone wants them clearly means you have no idea what is happening with football.
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Were you aware that hes been played out of position?
 
carolinablue232 said:
It means they can’t let go of the opinion they had before he left. No one wants to be wrong. Nothing new.
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Wow what a childish comment.

On the American thing it does grate what Americans massively overrate US players.

Pulisic has been called a wunderkind for 5 years now. His best record for Dortmund was a goal every 4.2 games...hardly mind blowing when playing for the 2nd best side in Germany and one of the best in Europe.

Lozano may or may not be a better player -- who cares!?!?!

But its unfair to call a player overrated when played out of position all season lol
 
Zatara said:
Wow what a childish comment.

On the American thing it does grate what Americans massively overrate US players.

Pulisic has been called a wunderkind for 5 years now. His best record for Dortmund was a goal every 4.2 games...hardly mind blowing when playing for the 2nd best side in Germany and one of the best in Europe.

Lozano may or may not be a better player -- who cares!?!?!

But its unfair to call a player overrated when played out of position all season lol
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25 league appearances. 16 on the wing. But yeah, he’s been played out of position all season.
 
carolinablue232 said:
25 league appearances. 16 on the wing. But yeah, he’s been played out of position all season.
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Lozano? Not from what ive seen or the commentators talk about.

10 starts / 15 sub (85% i guess up top)

1010 mins / 11 games worth approx

4 goals.


Better record games to goals than Pulisic and played out of position too.

Hes hardly overrated.
 
Zatara said:
Lozano? Not from what ive seen or the commentators talk about.

10 starts / 15 sub (85% i guess up top)

1010 mins / 11 games worth approx

4 goals.


Better record games to goals than Pulisic and played out of position too.

Hes hardly overrated.
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The info about where is all out there Zat. You can find it in about 2 mins if you look at transfermarkt rather than just guessing. More times on the wing than anywhere else. He has 4 goals in 25 appearances. That’s less than 1 in 5. And either way you’re using playing up top as a reason to not score more goals?

And let’s just play the mins played game where you say it’s a better rate than pulisic. By that logic, Pulisic has 9 in 19. Still beats your 4 in 11. What else ya got?
 

sanctioned said:
Lozano has not done well at Napoli, the fact that anyone wants them clearly means you have no idea what is happening with football.
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Thierry Henry
Dennis Bergkamp

You can be utter turd in Italian Leagues and amazing in the PL... they’re a total different style of play to each other.
 
carolinablue232 said:
This is a strange one for you Zatman. You’re basically saying Pulisic is overrated because he lost his place as a starter at Dortmund after he’d already been sold, yet you use not being a first choice winger as a defense for Lozano at Napoli? If he’s so great, why can’t he win a place?

And by the age of 20, Pulisic had 80 appearances for one of the best clubs in the world. Lozano “Doing it” in Mexico and Holland are basically the same thing. Second rate leagues. He’s never done anything of note in a top tier domestic league. And if we’re looking at internationals, again Pulisic has a better record...

He’s been one of Chelsea’s best players when healthy, and he’s 21 with champs league pedigree. Seems like the exact type of player you usually love.
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One of the best supported clubs in the world.

When was the last time Dortmund won anything of note?
 

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