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Everton Transfer Thread - Summer 2020

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blueblue said:
I don't think there is any real story here.

I have always felt that CA was not going to try and build slowly , I think he and Brands are working on a twin track approach.
CA will bring in senior players he knows and trusts to improve the team in one sharp transfer window.... I think the plan has been tweaked because of the pandemic but the desire is to get a team together for next season that will challenge for to six.

At the same time Brands is bringing in young players like Branthwaite and Nkonkou(hopefully more to come) to develop over a couple of seasons with the best of the young players already at the club like Dobbin, Gibson , Simms, Kyle John and others.
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This makes sense but I think to be effective Brands also has to get rid of high earners like Bolasie, Sandro et al.
 
Toffe3m4n said:
*dons fireproof vest*

Given the three of James, Allan & Doucoure all happen.. what would we think of this kind of lineup?

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Allan would technically occupy the space right in between the CM's and CB's but I didn't have that option in the lineup builder!
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It's essentially a 4-5-1 with three in central midfield, which I honestly think is required in the Premier League. You can't get away with just two in CM. I think it looks quite good, although there is the option of having Rodriguez play ACM and have Walcott on the right (more pace) at the expense of Gomes. I don't think Kenny has what it will take to make it at Everton, and that Coleman will be playing there unless we sign a new RB.
 
Dymak said:
The club don't appear to be including him in their plans at all. They look like they are trying to sign three superior central midfielders. The hope that Gbamin may one day be able to make it as a reserve if he ever manages to play football again is not an indicator of him being in anyone's plans. If anything, they appear to be investing heavily in central midfield because they don't have any confidence in any of our current central midfielders.
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They don’t have any confidence in him now because they haven’t really seen him play surely? The fact that they seem to have his recovery date as sooner than thought and generally chatter about him in press conferences show that he’s at least in their plans AS a back up to the superior midfielders we’re bring in (I agree with that). Being in the plans don’t have to mean first team. I see him as more like-for-like cover for Allan and Doucourè than anyone else we have
 

blueblue said:
I don't think there is any real story here.

I have always felt that CA was not going to try and build slowly , I think he and Brands are working on a twin track approach.
CA will bring in senior players he knows and trusts to improve the team in one sharp transfer window.... I think the plan has been tweaked because of the pandemic but the desire is to get a team together for next season that will challenge for to six.

At the same time Brands is bringing in young players like Branthwaite and Nkonkou(hopefully more to come) to develop over a couple of seasons with the best of the young players already at the club like Dobbin, Gibson , Simms, Kyle John and others.
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We have clearly not moved to the conventional DOF model. Brands does not run the club, in the way say Rangnick runs clubs at the RB franchise or many European clubs exert enormous control. How Brands feels about this, if he was promised something he hasn't got, if he's frustrted with it or alternatuvely if he's happy to go along with it for a decent package.

I think the appointment of Ancelotti has accelerated these changes, but it hasn't fundamentally caused them. Managers continue to have a big say in recruitment with the team, and it's partly whywe are in a mess, as each one fails their transfers compound problems.

The flip of it, is that if you are going to go all in on an individual, never mind a manager, Ancelotti is about as good as you can get, particularly for Everton. So I can see why that move has been made.

I make you right, we would seem to be operating almost a parallel recruitment drive. Ancelotti gets a lot of first teamers he wants, while Brands sorts the academy out and seeks out younger players. The initial concerns would be it looks eerily similar to the Koeman/Walsh arrangement. I prefer organisations to be working to a singular aim. That being said, the counter may be, Koeman and Walsh don't have the calibre, experience and ability to fulfil that plan, as say Brands/Ancelotti do. We will probably see this theory tested in coming weeks.

I'm not really a football hipster who only wants us signing under 24's. With the manager we have, he could get the best from experienced players, so it sort of makes sense. One thing for Ancelotti, is he seems more open to integrating younger players than Koeman did, and trying to improve them. That might be the hope of the club, that as we improve the quality of the first team, some of the names you've mentioned above come through, and we perhaps move some on for big fees.

Interesting times, and I still think this James thing has a bit to run yet.
 
With Silva having a medical today with Chelsea do you think we’ll realistically go in for Tomori or Zouma ? Obviously Tomori was a target last season but Lampard wouldn’t let him leave . Also a Lozano on loan ? Think we’ll see a out or two and maybe one that might surprise us ..
 
neilsyd said:
Always a good indicator the bookies.

www.oddschecker.com

Everton strong odds-on favourites to sign Allan, James Rodriguez and Doucoure

The Toffees could be closing in on an audacious triple signing, according to the bookies.
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I am normally a bit scpetical of betting markets, as you tend to see people fly in and then go out again. However a move from 1/3-1/20 on Allan is a massive cut in odds. The other 2 being 1/8 is also extremely short (I tend to be sceptical of things sort of even money and out-even if you are favourite). That looks quite conclusive on all 3. Interesting that the move on Allan didn't seem to lengthen Doucoure-which it might normally.

If we get Allan, Doucoure & James over the line in the next few days, that would be an astonishing piece of business, and to be honest would again put to bed the idea we are skint or don't have any money to spend.
 
MurrayColm said:
With Silva having a medical today with Chelsea do you think we’ll realistically go in for Tomori or Zouma ? Obviously Tomori was a target last season but Lampard wouldn’t let him leave . Also a Lozano on loan ? Think we’ll see a out or two and maybe one that might surprise us ..
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I can see us looking to the loan market. Maybe if we move 1 cb out, Tomori could come in? I've always sensed the Lozano loan could happen too, works in all parties interests.
 

Toffe3m4n said:
*dons fireproof vest*

Given the three of James, Allan & Doucoure all happen.. what would we think of this kind of lineup?

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Allan would technically occupy the space right in between the CM's and CB's but I didn't have that option in the lineup builder!
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You seem to have replaced our top goalscorer with a bum and placed Allan into a position he's never played in his career

Definitely winning the title with that lineup
 

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