Everton Transfer Thread - Summer 2020

[Goat]

I know he had his fans on here.

 

[Nymzee]

I know he had his fans on here.

Surprised they’d ditch Pjanic

 

[Goat]

....yep, deals can be made but transfers only confirmed in the transfer window. You will have the odd agreement in place but the transfer window opens and closes for the official transfer of the player.

From the wiki page.

Transfer window" is the unofficial term commonly used by the media for the concept of "registration period" as described in the FIFA Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Player.[1] According to the rules, each national football association decides on the time (such as the dates) of the 'window' but it may not exceed 12 weeks. The second registration period occurs during the season and may not exceed four weeks.


Which confirms what I said.

 

[Goat]

Surprised they’d ditch Pjanic

2 players plus 25m???????

I FORT PRICES WOOD DROP





Of course its a media made up story.

 

[Eggs]

From the wiki page.

Transfer window" is the unofficial term commonly used by the media for the concept of "registration period" as described in the FIFA Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Player.[1] According to the rules, each national football association decides on the time (such as the dates) of the 'window' but it may not exceed 12 weeks. The second registration period occurs during the season and may not exceed four weeks.


Which confirms what I said.

...it does. I agree. Most deals will happen during the window, though.

 

[f.t.r.s]

I know he had his fans on here.

Surely that's nonsense

 

[zook]

Surprised they’d ditch Pjanic

Not what he once was, I’d be shocked if Barca have any interest in him or De Sciglio, although they have made some odd moves the last few years

 

[bluebud]

2 players plus 25m???????

I FORT PRICES WOOD DROP





Of course its a media made up story.

Yep looks like Barca are Pjanic buying.



Soz.

 

[brettangellnightporter]

Yep looks like Barca are Pjanic buying.



Soz.

What's semedo wit you?

 

[KaiserEFC]

I’m sorry but you don’t spaff £25m and a player as good as Pjanic for Semedo. It’s either being reported incorrectly or Barcelona have taken Dybala and Ronaldo as hostages.

 

[Neiler]

It's taken us longer to get there, and part of that is we were behind both City and (particularly) Chelsea when Moshiri arrived. There were certainly missed opportunities and really quite a lot of scattergun recruitment and poor management. It is worth saying as well, in relative terms (to the rest of the league) our spend was much lower. I mean Chelsea were towards 40% of the spend in the entire league and ended up settling at around 25%. City spent around 35-30% for the first 3 seasons. Our investment levels tended to be 10-15%. Substantial certainly, but not really eye catching sums. We also had to move on key players too, so it wasn't as much spent "net"- we lost Stones, Lukaku and Barkley which were big losses to the squad. Coleman, Jagielka, Baines, Barry, McCarthy, Mirallas etc were also on the decline and have lost performance. So I mean it's not been easy.

City started to add real quality at a good age. You think of Silva, Kompany, Aguero. The side ended up being built around them and all provided great service. I do think thats really our next challenge. To some degree we are similar to where they were when they signed them. If we played a full season under Ancelotti with this squad I think we finish probably between 5th-7th. Silva inability as a manager masked what is actually quite a balanced squad.

As for Brands, no I'm not absolute disciple of Brands either. However I think he's done a good job. I like that he walks away from deals, negotiates hard and tehre is a structure to recruitment. There isn't an awful lot of panic, and he is happy to wait later into windows. The first summer (on a recent poll I did on twitter) he got 6 out of 6 for signings as a pass, whereas last summer was just 2 out of 6 (albeit 4 of them were very close). 6 out of 6 is fantastic, whereas 2 our of 6 is a bit below par (I tend to view 50% as a decent hit rate, normally I'd say good but he's spending good money so you'd probably downgrade 50% to like a solid recruitment set).

Kean, Iwobi and Gbamin are still in the balance for me. The hope will be that with more time (perhaps like Mina) they come good in the 2nd season.

I think the league as you say probably becomes a lot closer next season. I think the traditional top 6 keep falling back and lose a lot of revenues but there are a lot of challengers from below. I think LIverpool are a team getting a bit older, and like City before them will probably come to the pack a bit, and unless there is big investment for City they too are in decline (albeit from a high base). If we sign 6 again in the summer, we could really do with a hit rate of 4 out of 6. If we could resolve 4 positions we are in quite a good position.

For Newcastle though, they are starting from a low base and expectations will need to be managed.

Don’t think we have got there myself mate. Despite the increased resources the takeover hasn’t been a success as yet. We have made poor decisions, lacked conviction and had zero continuity really. That’s an unfortunate thing to say, but that’s the truth. We have seen clubs like Wolves and Leicester with less resources come from behind and over take us as a result when we were supposed to be kicking on. It hasnt been great. You don’t improve unless you are acknowledge your current situation and short comings. I take on board some of your points but I think you paint a bleak picture of our position at the outset - we didn’t have to sell Stones, Lukaku etc - we accepted deals, equally I don’t think all of our players were on the wain either. Granted nobody thrives in an unstable environment and that is what we have been. We can look externally and we can look for an individual scape goat, but for me collectively the club haven’t been good enough collectively.

Don’t get me wrong I’m not without hope, nor do I not think we don’t have cause for optimism, there is a chance Brands might live up to his media profile and Carlo speaks for himself, like I said the skills to spend money might well be there now and hopefully the money is to. It’s stability and continuity holistically we need now, it enables progress. We should be four years into a programme, not 3- 4 months into another reboot our 4th in as many years, no point saying things have been great, they haven’t been really.

As you say we have good prospects and I’m open minded on Brands year two players, in fact most intrigue me, Kean, Gbamin and Iwobi, patience required. I haven’t even written of Delph.

The league is going to be fascinating going on, Spurs look like regressing to me, I see Chelsea, Utd, Arsenal there to be shot at. City and Mordor are to good not to be up there over the next couple of years in my opinion. But I can see opportunities for a couple of gate crashes, if we can get our act together. 3-4 steady signing in my opinion, CB, Midfield anchor, RW and another forward for me, the forward would be a luxury and not vital but Id be a fan Edouard, he’d be great here and a canny investment.

Be interesting watching us and Newcastle this summer and comparing, maybe there will be evidence of the skills in spending from us rather then just spending money like I suspect Newcastle may.

 

[ParisToffee]

...excellent goal scoring record, good age, good size and a good athlete. He looks the part, but I think he plays the same position as Richarlison which provides some doubt as to our interest.

Plays on both wings and if Richarlison is up top? He d probably accept a squad role too ;-) His team player and not afraid to do the donkey work either

 

[ParisToffee]

....I don’t think the transfer window opens until July.

No one knows if cup final will be played or if in August late so its chance of Europe for St Etienne so could hold on to him until over?

 

[Goat]

No one knows if cup final will be played or if in August late so its chance of Europe for St Etienne so could hold on to him until over?

 

[ParisToffee]

Was talking about St Etienne willing to sell early on ;-) I d presume all transfer periods will remain the same ;-)