Everton v Crystal Palace. 21st Sep at 16.00.

[marty mcfly]

Howard had a bad game, He's had more good than bad over the last 18 months though

I would be really worried if our football looked poor and we were being dominated by teams , Chelsea/Arsenal/Wolfsburg we played some lovely stuff at times

We should have that on our logo instead of NSNO

 

[Paulie]

Your blaming Martinez for that?

He started him mate.

 

[Del]

haha the last time I played that game was on the amiga and i believe it was called Championship Manager

Your post was a good one tbf

But it was far to long for me to go through and reply

My honest opinion is our CB's are in horrible form

The pair of them give you zero confidence going into the game, We looked a lot better against WBA and Wolfsburg once Stones replaced Distin

 

[anton66]

What a strange season . We score 2 v Leicester and Arsenal which we should have won, conceded 6 v Chelsea which we might have drawn, and today scored another 2 against Palace which should have been enough to beat them. We have conceded 13 goals in these 4 games. Our defense is shocking Baines, Jags, Coleman and Stones. and Howard must all put their hands up and admit how poor defensively they have been.

 

[meagher94]

If Coleman had to be out I'd have rather had Stones and Jags CB with Hibbert RB. Not because Sylvain is particularly bad, but just because Stones need to be CB.

 

[roydo]

What a strange season . We score 2 v Leicester and Arsenal which we should have won, conceded 6 v Chelsea which we might have drawn, and today scored another 2 against Palace which should have been enough to beat them. We have conceded 13 goals in these 4 games. Our defense is shocking Baines, Jags, Coleman and Stones. and Howard must all put their hands up and admit how poor defensively they have been.

5 international footballers.

 

[Del]

We should have that on our logo instead of NSNO

You get what I mean though

Take the RS last night, They were pulled apart by an average West Ham side, If that was the type of performance we were seeing I would be very worried

We are still playing good football we just need to get our defence in order and stop making daft mistakes

 

[Del]

If Coleman had to be out I'd have rather had Stones and Jags CB with Hibbert RB. Not because Sylvain is particularly bad, but just because Stones need to be CB.

Bingo

 

[Donald Twain]

Do we need some sort of psychological hardiness embedding to stop us panicking at the slightest pressure? We were on 82% and looking at steamrolling them after 20 minutes.

A few attacks, a silly penalty and we looked suicidal.

Our confidence was shot, we rushed passes, we snatched at long balls, clearances went to them 8 times out of 10 and we were so scared of making a mistake that we perpetuated our own demise.

This is a major point that I feel needs addressing right down to the cleaners !! If there was a bar fight involving clubs we'd be the first hiding in the bogs shi33in ourselves.

 

[nsno-chris]

Your post was a good one tbf

But it was far to long for me to go through and reply

My honest opinion is our CB's are in horrible form

The pair of them give you zero confidence going into the game, We looked a lot better against WBA and Wolfsburg once Stones replaced Distin

Well we all have our own thoughts on the game; the defenders do make mistakes but i still believe that the issues can be resolved by defending further up the pitch

i just hope it gets resolved soon because i'm slightly concerned

 

[Del]

This is a major point that I feel needs addressing right down to the cleaners !! If there was a bar fight involving clubs we'd be the first hiding in the bogs shi33in ourselves.

We don't have any leaders, Someone who scares people and gets the others going

The point about us wilting and bottling it, Well its been there since Moyes and honestly how do you get rid of that mentality

How many times have we been 2/3-0 up for them to score and your instant reaction is "Here we go"

 

[mrb85]

Martinez was shocking today I thought.

Osman should not start a game whilst Besic and Gibson are available.

Why tinker with your defence? Keep Stones CB and don't mess with the back line, only make necessary changes.

Osman was having a shocker and Atsu was coming into the game getting to the byline, he takes Atsu off and Osman subsequently causes a goal.

Between McCarthy and Barry we had no one willing to pick the ball up off them or drop off their man to receive the ball. Massive gaps between them and Eto'o, Osman and Lukaku.

Towards the end He had Eto'o wasted on the wing whilst the ball was bouncing off Lukaku.

Poor poor management today.

Couldn't agree more. A few more poor management aspects - why waste a substitution by taking Stones off and moving McCarthy to RB? Why wasn't he trying to get the message through to his team to quicken things up in the first half, irrespective of us being ahead? Why leave it to the last 20 minutes when we're a couple of goals down? RM might like to watch his side knocking the ball around from wing to wing without threatening the opposition goal, but at the end of the day you've got to score goals or else you're liable to a sucker punch -- cue Tim Howard................

 

[maurice]

Not even a 10 minute w**k can turn this day around for me, ruined and rotten to the core. Even Chancellor Palapatine didn't F up as much as we did today. I mean why don't I just support Bournemouth? Decent side, handsome players, good chairman. We knew LIVERPOOL HAD LOST, we knew MAN UTD AND SPURS had lost, why didn't the players live up to that and think let's win? I say if we don't win at Klanfield, every evertonian boycotts going to matches UNTIL we beat Liverpool again. The club will lose lots of income and the players will think "oh we better beat liverpool so the fans start coming back". This process might take a couple of years, maybe even a decade but it's the only thing I can think of right now. Just imagine being a Juve or Barca fan, winning league titles every other week and always thrashing your rivals, how I envy them. We are just an embarrassing bag of turd. EVERTONIANS should learn our lessons from being positive after the Wolfsburg game because it always comes back to bite us. NEVER FELT MORE LIKE SINGING THE BLUES WHEN EVERTON LOSE AND LIVERPOOL LOSE. Remember before our thrashing at anfield last season, leading up to that we were confident, then we got smashed, hahahha I got lots of stick from my colleagues and all I could reply with was "ha, we never win at anfiled, ha". The fact of the matter is this happens year on year. We will NEVER win a trophy unless big changes happen. Look at other clubs, bloody Portsmouth have won something more recently than us, even Wigan FFS. Imagine crying now and having tears in your eyes and not enjoying the weekend and falling asleep waking up and remembering that we have lost. IMAGINE. So sally can wait she know's its too late as we're walking on by, her soul slides away. BUT DON'T LOOK BACK IN ANGER I heard you say. Those lyrics some up my day. I want to get mad at our players but I just can't, its the manager's fault. My grandfather was brought up working down the mines of Birkenhead, he grew up watching proper football, not the pile of w**k we have to put up with these days . Footballers are so overpaid, when we lose a game the players should be fined £1 million each, this will teach them a lesson and make them depressed so they try harder. Howard should be humiliated in the dressing room and banned for 5 games. Everyone else should be banned from seeing their family for 2 weeks. This will teach them a lesson and ensure they actually try to win a game of football. So Lukaku scores after 9 mins I knew it wouldn't last. When I heard that Osman missed a chance to make it 2-0 I knew they would reply straight away. When I heard they had a penalty you knew they would score. After HT you knew they would win the game. They didn't even have 30% possession FFS. At least against Sunderland we had a guy sent off and we actually tried but today it was just shambolic. I for one will NOT, repeat NOT enter Goodison again until we keep a clean sheet. WE HAVE THE WORST DEFENSIVE RECORD IN THE LEAGUE. I might wear red to embrace the devil and maybe he will give us some luck, because God 100% isn't an Evertonian with the luck we have. Just imagine if we had won today, 8 points, first win at home in the league, confidence going into the derby, I can enjoy the week and everything would be ok, but we knew that was never going to happen. It's actually a disgrace that we didn't win that game today. 2 games at home in the league; 2 losses and 9 goals conceded, ACTUALLY EMBARRASSING. I mean what else do I have to say? I would happily start the week again just so we could get a draw today. The only positive that I can take from today is at least I don't have Ebola.

 

[Del]

Well we all have our own thoughts on the game; the defenders do make mistakes but i still believe that the issues can be resolved by defending further up the pitch

i just hope it gets resolved soon because i'm slightly concerned

I'm concerned, Anyone who isn't is kidding themselves

Today though was less about a poor defensive unit and more to do with stupid individual errors

 

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

Not even a 10 minute w**k can turn this day around for me, ruined and rotten to the core. Even Chancellor Palapatine didn't F up as much as we did today. I mean why don't I just support Bournemouth? Decent side, handsome players, good chairman. We knew LIVERPOOL HAD LOST, we knew MAN UTD AND SPURS had lost, why didn't the players live up to that and think let's win? I say if we don't win at Klanfield, every evertonian boycotts going to matches UNTIL we beat Liverpool again. The club will lose lots of income and the players will think "oh we better beat liverpool so the fans start coming back". This process might take a couple of years, maybe even a decade but it's the only thing I can think of right now. Just imagine being a Juve or Barca fan, winning league titles every other week and always thrashing your rivals, how I envy them. We are just an embarrassing bag of turd. EVERTONIANS should learn our lessons from being positive after the Wolfsburg game because it always comes back to bite us. NEVER FELT MORE LIKE SINGING THE BLUES WHEN EVERTON LOSE AND LIVERPOOL LOSE. Remember before our thrashing at anfield last season, leading up to that we were confident, then we got smashed, hahahha I got lots of stick from my colleagues and all I could reply with was "ha, we never win at anfiled, ha". The fact of the matter is this happens year on year. We will NEVER win a trophy unless big changes happen. Look at other clubs, bloody Portsmouth have won something more recently than us, even Wigan FFS. Imagine crying now and having tears in your eyes and not enjoying the weekend and falling asleep waking up and remembering that we have lost. IMAGINE. So sally can wait she know's its too late as we're walking on by, her soul slides away. BUT DON'T LOOK BACK IN ANGER I heard you say. Those lyrics some up my day. I want to get mad at our players but I just can't, its the manager's fault. My grandfather was brought up working down the mines of Birkenhead, he grew up watching proper football, not the pile of w**k we have to put up with these days . Footballers are so overpaid, when we lose a game the players should be fined £1 million each, this will teach them a lesson and make them depressed so they try harder. Howard should be humiliated in the dressing room and banned for 5 games. Everyone else should be banned from seeing their family for 2 weeks. This will teach them a lesson and ensure they actually try to win a game of football. So Lukaku scores after 9 mins I knew it wouldn't last. When I heard that Osman missed a chance to make it 2-0 I knew they would reply straight away. When I heard they had a penalty you knew they would score. After HT you knew they would win the game. They didn't even have 30% possession FFS. At least against Sunderland we had a guy sent off and we actually tried but today it was just shambolic. I for one will NOT, repeat NOT enter Goodison again until we keep a clean sheet. WE HAVE THE WORST DEFENSIVE RECORD IN THE LEAGUE. I might wear red to embrace the devil and maybe he will give us some luck, because God 100% isn't an Evertonian with the luck we have. Just imagine if we had won today, 8 points, first win at home in the league, confidence going into the derby, I can enjoy the week and everything would be ok, but we knew that was never going to happen. It's actually a disgrace that we didn't win that game today. 2 games at home in the league; 2 losses and 9 goals conceded, ACTUALLY EMBARRASSING. I mean what else do I have to say? I would happily start the week again just so we could get a draw today. The only positive that I can take from today is at least I don't have Ebola.

I am a doctor mate and I can confirm that you have Ebola.