Everton v Hull City Tigers. 19th Oct @ 15.00.

[davmaher]

I think teams will look at this game and start to push us high up the pitch early .. Shocking passing between the cb's I was bemused

Very true. I think part of the problem was the time Howard took to distribute the ball. By the time he gave it out Hull were starting to close down Distin, Jags or Barry (primarily) and they would be under pressure as soon as they got the ball.

 

[Khalekan]

I'm all for 'Without Fear' but this passing it out from the back...and NO exceptions, is slowly morphing into fannying around and the football equivalent of russian roulette.

I am afraid you have it wrong.

Just off the top of my head and in the last three games alone, the third goal against Newcastle, the goal against City and yesterday's winner all came about from an old fashioned "hoof" up the pitch.

Roberto is prepared to have the players mix it up a bit.

And as for playing it out from the back being like "Russian roulette"....I would suggest it is no more so than continually lumping it forward only for the ball to come straight back at us.

 

[Jamo Martinez]

I am afraid you have it wrong.

Just off the top of my head and in the last three games alone, the third goal against Newcastle, the goal against City and yesterday's winner all came about from an old fashioned "hoof" up the pitch.

Roberto is prepared to have the players mix it up a bit.

And as for playing it out from the back being like "Russian roulette"....I would suggest it is no more so than continually lumping it forward only for the ball to come straight back at us.

Good post.

 

[Eggs]

I am afraid you have it wrong.

Just off the top of my head and in the last three games alone, the third goal against Newcastle, the goal against City and yesterday's winner all came about from an old fashioned "hoof" up the pitch.

Roberto is prepared to have the players mix it up a bit.

And as for playing it out from the back being like "Russian roulette"....I would suggest it is no more so than continually lumping it forward only for the ball to come straight back at us.

...it is a bit squeaky bum, but I reckon you are right and I'm buying into it. He wants players to be brave and believe in their own ability to keep the ball. Love him or loathe him (and I like him), that why he picks the likes of Osman. We are still transitioning and but you can see how he wants to play and he will eventually have a team who are comfortable with that approach.

 

[degsy]

I remember Richard Gough getting interviewed saying he never marked anyone from corners, he stayed free and just attacked it wherever it went, there seemed to be a real lack of authority from our centre halves yesterday

is right...more or less

don't mark space

staying with your man is ok... so long as everybody does it

but if some body arrived late from the edge of the area

Like Gough says ATTACK THE BALL... they can't score without it

 

[D410]

If Hull play like that each week they will stay up for sure they were a bit unlucky TBH but evertons class told on the day when it mattered most.

3pts for us and job done..I think that,s about as far as I can go with the performance, TBH I was ticked off with the players who played but had been rested, Osman, Milkman, barkley and Kone...not good enough for me on that performance.

Villa, next.. we need to develop a touch of steel about us in the middle of the park and at the back if we want 3 points. Spurs did a job on villa yestreday and look really hard to break down which is something new for them and it paid off.

 

[Ihaters]

Not hoofball exactly

Attacking with more direct urgency. Look to undo the defense with 3 passes instead of 10. Not being afraid to have a shot from outside the box. Playing a long pass if you think it's going to work

Just something

Insanity is repeating the same action and expecting a different reaction

Agree with most of that, but generally our biggest threat at current appears to be long shots, don't think there is a fear of hitting it from range.

 

[Coalman]

Play fairly ordinary and win. I will take it. Fortunate with a couple of big calls too - wreckless from Barry. Game of inches is it not? Kone saving it up for a derby winner to ingartiate himself? I hope so.

 

[royalblue66]

Just a small criticism about Ross, think he needs to be a little more clever and go down now and again when fouled, Curtis Davies did him a few times on Saturday and because Ross stayed on his feet it was like an invitation for Davies to keep fouling him, mind the Ref could have done better he didn't give Ross any protection at all.

 

[PITA]

I'm sure you're right. It looked easy but think about it. He didn't have much to aim at kicking to his right.

Maybe, given the chance again, he could've gone for the other corner, I don't know, but you have a split second to decide.

I bet that one day soon he'll score an important goal for us and then.....

............we'll sell him to Newcastle and he'll hardly ever play again.

 

[deipnosophist]

Thanks for preview Chico

 

[andy4efc]

Agree with most of that, but generally our biggest threat at current appears to be long shots, don't think there is a fear of hitting it from range.

Problem is Barkley is just shooting whenever. It's about knowing when to shoot outside the box, not just for the sake of doing it.

 

[Furey1878]

Problem is Barkley is just shooting whenever. It's about knowing when to shoot outside the box, not just for the sake of doing it.

Agreed.

I'm sure in time he'll learn to thread other players through instead though.

 

[cjuk87]

Phil Jagielka plays the most long passes in the Premier League (9.6 per game)

Just a quick stat to those saying we refuse to hoof it.

 

[dead_soft]

Not hoofball exactly

Attacking with more direct urgency. Look to undo the defense with 3 passes instead of 10. Not being afraid to have a shot from outside the box. Playing a long pass if you think it's going to work

Just something

Insanity is repeating the same action and expecting a different reaction

This doesn't really make any sense.

You may as well say - look to score 100 goals every game. Of course, if we just had to take 3 touches to score it'd be great but that's not how it works. Belting the ball from outside the area doesn't get that many goals. You work with your players and set them up to be able to work together to create goal scoring opportunities - you aim for the best percentage chance of scoring.

And that insanity cliche doesn't really work either. We played the same way for 4 games. The first 3 we drew but I think most people did expect it to change if we stuck with the same system and style. It wasn't insanity, it was sensible.